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Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials)

posted by Boyinhtown, Houston, TX, 13.02.2012, 19:48

Ahab, do your research before passing a uninformed decision.
The therapy used on patients with cancer is not exactly the same as actualy freezing and cryotherapy. They used cold ice packs to lower the temperature.

I mentioned that to just give you an idea of different approaches being used to stop hairloss.

My point is already proven about angiogenesis because Latiss is a prostaglandin E2 analog and that is responsible for angiogenesis. You are not going to change scientific facts.

And it also has been proven that angiogenesis that occurs due to Latisse/prostaglandin e2 leads to hair growth on the head and eyelash.

But as I mentioned there several pathways for blood vessel formation so to address them together increases hair growth and quality.

Time to stop being so pathetic and brainwashed by the corporate media/pharmacies. You can take propecia all you want but it will not stop your hair loss. It will just destroy your life... so sad.

� I suspect the way Cryotherapy is used to prevent hair loss in cancer
� patients when getting chemo, is that Cryotherapy lowers the temperature of
� hair follicles and constricts capillaries that support the follices,
� thereby slowing follicle metabolism and reducing blood flow.
�
� By lowering the metabolism in the hair follicles, it reduces their need for
� blood, and by constricting the capillaries, it reduces the amount of blood
� that can be fed to the follicles in any case.
�
� Reducing the blood supply would also be reducing the amount of chemo, which
� is in the blood, that the follicles would take in, making it less likely
� that the chemo will poison any follicles.
�
� If true, Cryotherapy would no help at all for affected with mpb.
�
�
�
� � I'm very excited on starting a new phase and new treatment approach. I
� have
� � been searching on how to increase angiogenesis or blood vessel formation
� in
� � the scalp. VEGF is one thing that increases that and there are several
� � pathways that are involved in angiogenesis. That includes histidine,
� which
� � is precursor for histamine that helps in angiogenesis. Also,
� prostaglandins
� � like Latisse(bimatoprost) are also involved an increase blood vessel
� � formation.
� �
� � Now I have been on Latisse again for 7 weeks now, and have taken
� pictures
� � before I started and after... and will post them soon, so dont worry.
� �
� � But at the same time I have been looking at other ways to increase
� � angiogenesis. I have always wondered why hair loss in men is in a
� certain
� � pattern. Hair at the back and sides always even on very old men, is
� still
� � there yet they have no hair on the top, crown area and front.
� �
� � This led me to findout out about skull expansion etc which makes sense to
� a
� � big degree. It states that DHT is responsible for bone resportion and
� � remodeling which does not stop just at puberty but continues througout
� your
� � lifetime. It also states that people with more of a square head shape
� than
� � a roundshape are more likely to keep their hair because their remodeling
� � happens in a different way and I can attest to that and have always
� noticed
� � how Red indians, south american indians, and people of Alaskan Inuit
� � descent all have mostly square head shapes and barely ever have I seen
� any
� � hairloss them.
� �
� � So one route is to inhibit topical DHT which I will do through topical
� � estrogen which might help to slow or alter the bone
� resorption/remodeling.
� � But at the same time its obvious to me that when my hair loss started at
� � 17, with a very small bald spot right where the hair grows out of at the
� � crowne, it steadily and slowly over many years expanded to start
� including
� � my entire crowne area... and than spreading in a circular pattern and
� � diffuse thinning than to the front too and also back area, but not the
� very
� � bottom back where of course i have all my hair.... and where there is no
� � hard skull area.. but more soft tissue...so its like a progressive
� disease
� � if you will, that spread not rapidly if one thinks about it, but took
� � several years... so what is missing is the layers of fat and blood
� vessels,
� � espeically the browne adipose tissue which is " Cold exposure produces
� � adaptive hyperplasia and growth of brown adipose tissue (BAT), the major
� � site of non-shivering thermogenesis in rodents, associated with
� increased
� � angiogenesis in this tissue"
� �
� http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1218903/
� �
� � as mentioned in that article. From my research I have found it that
� � cryotherapy is commonly used to initiate angiogenesis! This is something
� � that can be done at home using different wart freezing sprays/etc that
� have
� � freezing temps of -10 to -70 degree Celsius. Once the tissue is
� destroyed
� � at the much lower temperature, blood vessels form around the damaged
� tissue
� � and than start spreading and growing into the damaged area and thus new
� � vessels are formed. This treatment is used for cancer patients who
� suffer
� � from alopecia. you can google it and here is a link:
� �
� http://www.livestrong.com/article/228699-how-to-prevent-hair-loss-from-chemo/
� �
� � So your brown fat tissue is increaese as one of the websites relating to
� � skull expansion states is needed to increase normal hair regrowth,
� implying
� � thus that browne adipose tissue is missing or decreaed due to the
� streching
� � of the skull. And if we touch are top hard skull parts and right at the
� � back/top crowne area, we can feel that there is not much fat there,
� � compared to the very back or sides. So this all makes sense. If DHT was
� � soley responsible for our hair loss as most of the corporate zombie
� � American pharmaceuticals will have us believe, just so we can buy more
� of
� � their chemical castration Propecia which turns a man into a
� asexual/zombie
� � with low libido and no self esteem, ya forget that but what I was saying
� � was --- than we wouldn't have hair anywhere, because DHT actually causes
� � hair growth and not just all over the body but if you even just take
� hair
� � on the head, why is it that DHT somehow isn't able to affect the hair
� right
� � south of the horshoe line?? I mean, the same blood supply is flowing
� � through the entire body so DHT cannot be a very significant cause in
� hair
� � loss. Now DHT helps bone remodeling and resorption and in some people
� due
� � to genetics and other factors it affects the skull more than some other
� � races, but the point is it is a problem that can be solved in my opinion.
�
� �
� � I am going to attempt doing cryotherapy (freezing) my scalp few areas at
� a
� � time, starting with the most bald/thinning, which is the crowne. Once
� the
� � area starts to get revascularized and also browne adipose tissue fat
� � deposting again, than I am sure my hair will start to grown again like
� it
� � already does on my head but something hard and big (my top skull area)
� is
� � blocking my hair from growing as healthy and normally as before.
� �
� � Curcumin, Resveratorl (decreases angiognesis) and grape seed extracts
� and
� � all the other crap especially green tea all hurt
� �
� http://greentealovers.com/greenteahealthcancer-slct.cfm?type=%22Cancer:%20Angiogenesis%22
� �
� � all hurt angiogenesis and really are a waste of time! and money! Think
� � about it.. .it has been decades since people have been taking all this
� � nonsense yet I have yet to see after sooo many years one real set of
� � pictures before and after.... wich photos taken every few weeks not just
� � one photoshopped lame picture... i have yet to see a single time that
� any
� � of this crap grew hair!!????
� �
� � So why are we still trying to use these same things in different
� topicals??
� � They dont work! I know why though and that is because we all have lost
� hope
� � so we are willing to try anything, even if that means try something
� again.
� �
� � Trust me I know, im 28 and it sucks to not have my full head of hair like
� I
� � did until I was about 23, than the hair loss just became very
� noticeable.
� � It started of course when I was 17.
� �
� � Now I am sure there some people with round skulls yet have a thick set
� of
� � hair. But for the most part I have noticed it is guys with the arnold
� � terminator square head look that mostly keep their hair.
� �
� � But again the point is more than the shape of the head,,,, is whats
� � underneath your scalp. If you are missing browne tissue adipose than you
� � have less vascularization and thus like the slow pattern i mentioned
� � before... it happens slowly and slowly until no more significant blood
� � vessels are there for hair to get nutrients.
� �
� � So the current topical I am using mainly has things to encourage
� � angiogenesis.
� �
� � I am using NO Infuse topical spray which includes l-arginine and other
� � things such as ATP for increased energy and nitric oxide production,
� which
� � the lining of your blood vessels release, and which play a key role in
� � angiogenesis and blood vessel formation.
� �
� http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/18/2133.full
� �
� � Also I have thrown in that same bottle,
� � 1. Nanogen VEGF Plant Serum
� � 2. Thymosin Spray by Douglas Labs (for possible thymosin stem cell
� � activation)
� � 3. Melatonin (which has been used to treat alopecia in dog fur, bet you
� � didn't know that )
� �
� http://www.melatek.net/images/Kirks_III_article.pdf
� �
� �
� http://www.ehow.com/facts_5772150_melatonin-dog-hair-growth.html
� �
� � 4. crushed Vitamin B-12 tablets
� � 5. Rasberry Ketone powder from capsules( for increased IGF-1 production
� ,
� � which basically leads to more skin elasticity and a healthier skin and
� � other functions. Decreases after age 30 so I figured if it helps with
� youth
� � probably good for hair. There are some studies that indicate that IGF1
� is
� � not good for hair growth. But I find most state that it does help with
� skin
� � and hair, and not to mention proven for muscle growth. Body builders use
� � it. Key emphasis on the word 'growth'
� �
� � 6. Also a few vials of bimatoprost(latisse). I use latisse seperately
� too
� � directly from the little bottle it comes in on my scalp, but I also
� mixed
� � it in my Super topical mix that I have also with everything else in it
� as
� � mentioned above.
� �
� � So with all this combined I feel like I am giving my scalp the necessary
� � ingredients to get my hair growing again through of course,
� angiogenesis.
� �
� � But seperately as I mentioned I will try the cryotherapy in the next few
� � days once I get paid at the end of the week. It won't cost much to get
� this
� � stuff. Its available at walgreens and online. Key thing is to get
� something
� � that goes below just -10 celsius so their is more tissue destruction.
� � Preferably around -40 to -70 degrees. The key thing is to do small areas
� at
� � a time and not your entire scalp! I will probably split it into 4 or 5
� � segments so that it does not hurt too much.
� �
� � The research I have done indicates that cold temperature leads to
� � angiogenesis in humans as well as rats/hamsters etc.
� �
� � I guess that is the body's way of trying to continue providing nutrients
� to
� � key areas of the body. It makes way more sense, all of this that is to
� me
� � than the DHT inhibition propecia and body bloatin hurt huring Rogaine
� crap
� � we have been fed for sooo many years.
� �
� � The stem cells in a bald scalp area are the same as everywher else on
� the
� � scalp...
� �
� http://www.baumanblog.com/follicleblog/2011/01/stem-cells-may-hold-the-cure-for-baldness.html
� �
� � and they proved that they actually are very miniaturized hair follicles
� � still present in the scalp, but just invisible to the naked eye!
� �
� � So lets see how this all goes. I will post pictures of my Latisse
� � (bimatoprost) experiment at the 2 months mark which is in about a week,
� so
� � just hold on.
� �
� � I would love to hear what you guys have to say.........and thanks for
� � reading my very long post, much appreciated !

Boyinhtown is located in HOUSTON, TX and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

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Complete thread:

Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 08:13 (Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials)
- Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 08:15
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 08:21
- Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - KO, 13.02.2012, 08:51
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 17:40
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 17:43
    - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - KO, 13.02.2012, 19:21
      - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - jarjarbinx, 13.02.2012, 19:23
        Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 19:44
        Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - KO, 13.02.2012, 20:41
- Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - gutted2, 13.02.2012, 11:29
- Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Ahab, 13.02.2012, 19:04
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - jarjarbinx, 13.02.2012, 19:20
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Boyinhtown, 13.02.2012, 19:48
- Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - Boyinhtown, 17.02.2012, 03:10
  - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - kalevra, 17.02.2012, 06:48
    - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 10:09
      - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - kalevra, 17.02.2012, 11:16
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - Boyinhtown, 17.02.2012, 11:39
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 13:56
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - kalevra, 17.02.2012, 14:09
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 14:19
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 14:11
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 14:12
      - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - hairman2, 17.02.2012, 11:46
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - jarjarbinx, 17.02.2012, 14:02
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - Boyinhtown, 17.02.2012, 15:55
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - Boyinhtown, 17.02.2012, 16:01
        Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - Boyinhtown, 17.02.2012, 16:03
        ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS RAISED BY MEMBER - Boyinhtown, 18.02.2012, 05:55
        ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS RAISED BY MEMBER - action_reaction, 27.05.2012, 00:19
        ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS RAISED BY MEMBER - cal, 27.05.2012, 03:07
        Don't listen to those big pharma lovers - albert, 27.05.2012, 15:48
        Don't listen to those big pharma lovers - action_reaction, 27.05.2012, 17:52
  - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - needhairasap, 28.05.2012, 00:37
    - Cryotherapy for Blood Vessel Formation and Hair Regrwoth PICTURES - action_reaction, 28.05.2012, 00:41
- Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Bill, 28.05.2012, 09:09
  - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - roger_that, 28.05.2012, 10:11
    - Cryotherapy for Angiogenesis (blood vessel formation) Home Experiment - Bill, 28.05.2012, 18:04

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