CITNews Alpharetta, 13.06.2013, 00:18 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell (Hair Transplant) |
Three months ago Dr. Cole extracted 12 grafts from a 1cm area at the back of our patient's head. The donor sites were filled with ACell. A liquid bandage was applied immediately after the ACell application. The photo at the bottom right was taken yesterday (06-11-13) after we clipped the area down. The area healed remarkably well and we could find only four extraction sites out of the twelve. --- Post reply |
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CueBallBob 13.06.2013, 01:21 @ CITNews |
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Are you claiming that 8 extraction sites kept producing hair? Post reply |
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HMorHT 13.06.2013, 17:50 @ CITNews |
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I like the idea of experimenting with only 12 grafts, it is a lot easier to monitor that way. Dr. Nigam is making it way too complicated to follow. Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 13.06.2013, 19:41 @ HMorHT |
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The 4x4 photo above shows healing at up to 3 months. In other words, 3 months ago the 12 graft FUE surgery was performed. ACell was applied and sealed under our liquid bandage for the first time. ACell has been approved by the FDA as a regenerative product and at the very least, improves the appearance of FUE donor areas by reducing hypopigmentation. --- Post reply |
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cree4 13.06.2013, 21:25 @ CITNews |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 13.06.2013, 22:04 @ cree4 |
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![]() CITNews, Can Acell and this liquid band aid be used in conjunction with C2G or is that too difficult a protocol due to a patient not shaving their head? Thanks Cree4 Yes, ACell and the liquid bandage are compatible with C2G. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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0ptimist 13.06.2013, 23:52 @ CITNews |
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These are excellent photos and show very good healing. Unfortunately, I don't think they demonstrate regeneration as I cannot see any hairs growing at the extraction sites. Again though, the healing looks great. Post reply |
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cree4 14.06.2013, 00:26 @ 0ptimist |
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To me, many of the extraction sites seem devoid of hair. However,the 2 in the top right corner look like they have a follicle growing right in the middle of the extraction site. Post reply |
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Norwood3 14.06.2013, 03:05 @ CITNews |
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Great photos and I agree with the poster who said it is easier to evaluate the results from small scale experiments, I can see at least 2 spots which look like regeneration although so far it is only like a black dot. If weekly or daily photos can be taken, then it would be clear whether those black dots are really regeneration or not. Post reply |
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drnigam 14.06.2013, 11:09 @ HMorHT |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
HM/HT, ![]() I like the idea of experimenting with only 12 grafts, it is a lot easier to monitor that way. Dr. Nigam is making it way too complicated to follow. drnigam has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view drnigam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting. Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 14.06.2013, 15:43 @ drnigam |
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I couldn't get Dr. Nigam's before and after photos to align. The hair directions are different and the before and after looks like they are from a different area of scalp. I created a layer with dots marking the hair's exit point from the scalp over the result photo. I duplicated that layer and since it's on a separate transparent layer, I am able to move it around above the "before" photo. I couldn't get the dots to align with the hairs exit points. As I mentioned, the hair direction seems quite different as if from another area of scalp. --- Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 14.06.2013, 16:54 @ 0ptimist |
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![]() These are excellent photos and show very good healing. Unfortunately, I don't think they demonstrate regeneration as I cannot see any hairs growing at the extraction sites. Again though, the healing looks great. It has been 3 months since the grafts were extracted. Many more studies are needed. We have seen follicle regeneration ranging from 10% to right around 70%. The patients we have seen regeneration typically have been examined at 8-14 months post-op. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 14.06.2013, 17:23 @ cree4 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
![]() To me, many of the extraction sites seem devoid of hair. However,the 2 in the top right corner look like they have a follicle growing right in the middle of the extraction site. CITNews, Do you have a shaven picture of the area before any hairs were extracted? It would really help to map the area to see what was growing before the FUE. With this particular study, I began documenting the application and curing of our liquid bandage using our hi-def video camera (Sony nex-fs700u). That is why the first photo has a different tone. The camera shoots 1920x1080 progressive as opposed to interlaced so the resolution is decent. The first photo is a screen grab from a 30FPS clip. To make a long story short, I have a screen grab from the video camera of the area that is relatively sharp. The best grab I could find is just after two grafts were scored, but not yet removed. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 14.06.2013, 18:10 @ cree4 |
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![]() To me, many of the extraction sites seem devoid of hair. However,the 2 in the top right corner look like they have a follicle growing right in the middle of the extraction site. CITNews, Do you have a shaven picture of the area before any hairs were extracted? It would really help to map the area to see what was growing before the FUE. cree4 This is the sharpest video grab I could find. As you can see just a few grafts have been scored. I marked a follicular unit with a blue circle on each photo for reference. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck ![]() CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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drnigam 14.06.2013, 19:25 @ CITNews |
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drnigam 14.06.2013, 20:07 @ drnigam |
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Alpha, ![]() Alpha, Have a look at this donor regen..scarless with 90% regen at donor of a forum member and pics alignment matched by independent forum member gonewithhair and antinorwood...this is case of invivo donor doubling.. ![]() ![]() ![]() drnigam has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view drnigam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting. Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 14.06.2013, 22:45 @ drnigam |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
I can get a close match superimposing the extraction photo over the results photo, but the blue arrows indicate some major hair growth direction discrepancys between the extraction photo and the results photo. Now if you are getting close to 100% follicle regeneration as you claim, post photos that have been taken under tight control standards. Dr. Cole is willing to pay any doctor well who can prove this level of follicle regeneration and is willing to share the technology. Dr. Gho for instance, in an interview expressed his desire to share his techonology with other doctors for a price. Dr. Cole has contacted his office repeatedly and has not to this date received any response. --- Post reply |
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drnigam 14.06.2013, 23:55 (edited by drnigam, 15.06.2013, 00:17) @ CITNews |
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Dear Alpha, ![]() I can get a close match superimposing the extraction photo over the results photo, but the blue arrows indicate some major hair growth direction discrepancys between the extraction photo and the results photo. Now if you are getting close to 100% follicle regeneration as you claim, post photos that have been taken under tight control standards. Dr. Cole is willing to pay any doctor well who can prove this level of follicle regeneration and is willing to share the technology. Dr. Gho for instance, in an interview expressed his desire to share his techonology with other doctors for a price. Dr. Cole has contacted his office repeatedly and has not to this date received any response. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck ![]() drnigam has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view drnigam is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: YES email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting. Post reply |
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cree4 15.06.2013, 01:08 @ drnigam |
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scarred5 16.06.2013, 00:23 @ Norwood3 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
has dr cole used it on any scar revisions, if so have you guys seen any benefit in the appearance of the scar thanks Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 16.06.2013, 01:59 @ scarred5 |
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![]() has dr cole used it on any scar revisions, if so have you guys seen any benefit in the appearance of the scar thanks Hi scarred5: By revision, if I'm understanding your question, you mean cutting away scar tissue and closing the wound. Acell does help in some cases but often times it's a tight scalp that causes the scar to widen and it could cause a strip scar to widen back up. Dr. Cole is having great success grafting into scar tissue and ACell improves the yield. Here is a video I put together of our patient who documented his scar repair experience called "Scar Grafting with Dr. Cole". Here is the video that illustrates great growth of hair in scar tissue after just one pass. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 16.06.2013, 02:19 @ cree4 |
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scarred5 16.06.2013, 03:46 @ CITNews |
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thankyou for the prompt reply, unfortunately my donor is done as ive had plenty of surgeries so far, ive even had some beard in scar, ive reduced some of my scarring by revision, and thats all i can hope for at this point as im to far gone, what is your opinion with body hair implanted in scars, again thanks Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 16.06.2013, 17:11 @ scarred5 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
![]() thankyou for the prompt reply, unfortunately my donor is done as ive had plenty of surgeries so far, ive even had some beard in scar, ive reduced some of my scarring by revision, and thats all i can hope for at this point as im to far gone, what is your opinion with body hair implanted in scars, again thanks There is often plenty of donor beard hair below the jawline. The next best hair source is chest hair. Are you happy with your recipient area? Could you send photos to chuck@forhair.com on Monday? I can have Dr. Cole take a look at them. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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stitchmeup 17.06.2013, 21:15 @ scarred5 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
![]() thankyou for the prompt reply, unfortunately my donor is done as ive had plenty of surgeries so far, ive even had some beard in scar, ive reduced some of my scarring by revision, and thats all i can hope for at this point as im to far gone, what is your opinion with body hair implanted in scars, again thanks As far as I can tell, beard grafts in scar seem to work very well, right now that is my number 1 choice for my strip scars, and if everything fails, scalp micro pigmentation will be my last resort. stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply |
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scarred5 17.06.2013, 21:23 @ stitchmeup |
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results vary, ive seen some incredible results and i know first hand, cause ive had one of my scars implanted 4 times and unfortunately part is still visible even with my hair longer, which is why im not sure i want to attempt it again, ive had some success with revision, my last one with dr bret bolton, in florida, some of the best scars ive ever seen, depending on the size and location of the scar, a revision to reduce prior to implanting hair might be an option, ive been in contact with cit, who has been very helpful Post reply |
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stitchmeup 17.06.2013, 21:36 @ scarred5 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
![]() results vary, ive seen some incredible results and i know first hand, cause ive had one of my scars implanted 4 times and unfortunately part is still visible even with my hair longer, which is why im not sure i want to attempt it again, ive had some success with revision, my last one with dr bret bolton, in florida, some of the best scars ive ever seen, depending on the size and location of the scar, a revision to reduce prior to implanting hair might be an option, ive been in contact with cit, who has been very helpful How long ago was it when you had the revision done? I wonder if the scar will stretch again over time, to me revision seems to be a temporary solution, it buys us some time until scalp laxity becomes an issue again. stitchmeup is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO Post reply |
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scarred5 17.06.2013, 23:18 @ stitchmeup |
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i had several revisions done over the yrs with wolf, rahal and recently, with dr bolton in florida, who has the best scars ive ever seen, all resulted in improvement, im thinking of going again for a small partial one, but prior to having each one i would work the laxity of the area to be revise, by sqeezing and pinching, but then again i had more than one scar, i think mine have improved over time, but i agree thats not always the case, i would also recommend no gym for 3 months, im now trying the dermaroller Post reply |
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ipod 18.06.2013, 15:30 @ scarred5 |
Donor Area Healing With Acell |
why dermaroller? isn't this the one with needles? i used it before to enhance absorption of minoxidil and other topicals but this is the first time i heard people using dermaroller for scar repair. ![]() i had several revisions done over the yrs with wolf, rahal and recently, with dr bolton in florida, who has the best scars ive ever seen, all resulted in improvement, im thinking of going again for a small partial one, but prior to having each one i would work the laxity of the area to be revise, by sqeezing and pinching, but then again i had more than one scar, i think mine have improved over time, but i agree thats not always the case, i would also recommend no gym for 3 months, im now trying the dermaroller ipod is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 18.06.2013, 18:23 @ ipod |
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![]() ![]() i had several revisions done over the yrs with wolf, rahal and recently, with dr bolton in florida, who has the best scars ive ever seen, all resulted in improvement, im thinking of going again for a small partial one, but prior to having each one i would work the laxity of the area to be revise, by sqeezing and pinching, but then again i had more than one scar, i think mine have improved over time, but i agree thats not always the case, i would also recommend no gym for 3 months, im now trying the dermaroller Dr. Cole uses a dermaroller when administering PRP. I have heard that it can be used to improve the appearance of hair transplant related scars. Currently only physicians can purchase ACell. I'm curious if an ACell/PRP mix could be beneficial, applied to the scalp and micro-needled. If you do a Google search for "derma roller hair transplant scar" without quotes, at the bottom of this forum thread you can see a photo of a guy who used a dermaroller on his strip scar. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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scarred5 19.06.2013, 01:15 @ CITNews |
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yeah thats why i use it, people actually use it on their faces,so i dont think it would harm or make things worse in the donor, i just wonder if one gets results from prp, that results may not last and you would have to do repeat at regular intervals, just not sure but would love to hear the results you get if you try it Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 19.06.2013, 14:02 @ scarred5 |
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![]() yeah thats why i use it, people actually use it on their faces,so i dont think it would harm or make things worse in the donor, i just wonder if one gets results from prp, that results may not last and you would have to do repeat at regular intervals, just not sure but would love to hear the results you get if you try it In response to your post, I spoke with Dr. Cole this morning about PRP. He feels that PRP mainly helps with healing and improves hair shaft diameter. Outside of hair transplant surgery, PRP has a proven track record of improving healing in patients with injuries such as those that occur playing sports. Emory Healthcare for instance offers sports medicine training in the use of PRP. Dr. Cole just showed me a study of the effectiveness of PRP in hair transplant surgery that is currently underway. The study solicits data from hair restoration doctors about hair regrowth after PRP treatment. Dr. Cole personally hasn't seen hair regrowth but rather an increase in hair shaft diameter in patients treated with PRP. Cross sectional trichometry has determined that PRP does indeed increase hair shaft diameter in some patients. At the very least, PRP improves healing. Also, the benefits of PRP can only be maintained by regular treatments approximately once per year. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |
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scarred5 19.06.2013, 15:17 @ CITNews |
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do you think prp would be of benefit in a scar revision? i remember a few yrs back jones used it on wound not sutured shut, and i believe it still healed quite good, not perfect but surprising well, do you remember it? Post reply |
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CITNews Alpharetta, 19.06.2013, 16:02 @ scarred5 |
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![]() do you think prp would be of benefit in a scar revision? i remember a few yrs back jones used it on wound not sutured shut, and i believe it still healed quite good, not perfect but surprising well, do you remember it? Dr. Cole has seen great results from using a combination of ACell and PRP. One hair restoration physician in an interview expressed his frustration related to doctors not getting satisfactory results by using ACell because they are simply not following directions for use available from the manufacturer. The following is a photo I took yesterday of our RN next to our "Angel" device that we use to create our PRP. CITNews works at Dr. Cole's office www.forhair.com Cole Hair Transplant 1070 Powers Place Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 Phone 678-566-1011 email CITNews at chuck@forhair.com Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck ![]() CITNews is located in ALPHARETTA and he is available to meet: NO --- Post reply |