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Ahab

25.08.2016, 20:11
 

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful' (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Researchers surveyed 122 people who were asked to judge different men
Seven of the pictures were of men who had undergone a hair transplant
Those with hair were deemed to be more approachable and successful
Experts say having hair could allow men to go further up the career ladder

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3758198/Bad-news-baldies-Men-hair-perceived-attractive-approachable-successful.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
25.08.2016, 21:59

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

These conclusions are mostly true, but leave it to the British tabloids to harp on it with endless articles on the subject!




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hairdar

26.08.2016, 06:33

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Mentioning hair transplant makes it pretty obvious who sponsored this Newsy filler PR piece.

;-)




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jarjarbinx

26.08.2016, 16:30

@ hairdar

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

So are you saying that the results aren't credible and women really do like bald guys or are
you saying that the results of the survey are correct even though the survey was done by people
who have a self-interest in the results?




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mm12

27.08.2016, 04:58

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

It's obvious that women are attracted to men with hair. But I don't recommend anyone doing hair transplant if you've too much of hair loss. It's wasting of precious donor hairs. I've done hair transplant with aweful result in San Diego, CA. This is my biggest regret. The doctor lied to me and put me together and I only blame myself for it. 2 weeks ago finally after debating for more than a year I decided to do SMP. I always thought I will not be comfortable with hair down zero-half. But looks good makes me comfortable. Makes me look younger. I wish I've done it earlier. The good thing is if down the road something comes out that gives me full head of hair then I can reverse it with laser. So far I'm happy with what I did as far as SMP goes.




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Bezzzo

02.09.2016, 20:50

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Lads, the only thing that is making you less attractive, approachable and successful is your insecurities.

Shave your head, get into the gym and start to build some confidence. Only once you build some confidence will your insecurities start to recede (pun intended), then you will care less about being bald.

Started going bald when i was 19.




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Ahab

03.09.2016, 02:22

@ Bezzzo

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I do hit the gym.

And sure, I look better buff.

But I look even better buff and with hair.

As for shaving your head, that doesn't cut it in certain circles. Nor will it always be in style in any circle.

Nor does it fool anyone. They can tell you only shave it because you're bald.

The only people who look better bald are generally plug ugly with hair or without.




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Bezzzo

03.09.2016, 08:33

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Shaving your head is not about fooling anyone, it's about looking neat and tidy. The same if you had a beard that only grew in patches, you would shave it wouldn't you? If you had clothes that were dirty and ripped, you would change them. Etc

If shaving your head doesn't cut it in some circles, then that says a lot about the people in your circles.

Look man, i'm just trying to help. I used to be really insecure about to the point where i would where i wouldn't even let my parents see me without a hat. Then one day i turned a leaf and i stopped wearing my hat. Only then i realised no one gives a f**k if you're bald or not.

Sure there's going to be shallow women, as there are shallow men. But a survey of 122 people is of no significance, especially being that half were men who will automatically have a biased opinion as generally most men are/would be insecure about being bald. Also it would have been very interesting to see how they presented the men in those images, if in the before photo they are looking depressed, insecure, bleak, then in the after photo they're looking happy and content of course that's also going to sway your opinion too. But again, it all comes down to how you feel inside and how you present yourself. Even more interesting would have been to compare the results between the women and men.

"Experts say having hair could allow men to go further up the career ladder" Is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read in my entire life. You really seriously think a company is going to promote staff based on their hair and not their work ethic? Many many many of CEOs i've seen are bald, if not balding to some degree.. I wonder how did they get to be a CEO?

Here's some articles you might prefer to read:

Study Shows Baldness Can Be a Business Advantage
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bald-men-signals-dominance-2015-2

"I'm not saying that shaving your head makes you successful, but it starts the conversation that you've done something active," says tech entrepreneur and writer Seth Godin, 52, who has embraced the bare look for two decades. "These are people who decide to own what they have, as opposed to trying to pretend to be something else."

Bald Men Are Perceived As More Attractive, Study Finds
http://www.lifehack.org/389253/bald-men-are-perceived-as-more-attractive-study-finds

"Study 3. Do non-photographic stimuli provide the same results?
In the final study participants were given written descriptions of men. No photographs were used. More than 500 adults rated their perception of a given man based purely on the information they gathered from the written descriptions. The descriptions were all the same except for the parts that described the hair. The man that was described as having a shaved head was rated highest in masculinity, dominance, leadership potential and strength."

13 Reasons Bald Men Are Sexy ... → Love - Allwomenstalk
http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-bald-men-are-sexy

"In my opinion, confidence is very sexy.
It doesn't seem to matter what a guy looks like, when he has a lot of confidence it shows in so many ways.
A man who is sure of himself will walk with his head high, smile at everyone he meets, and ooze charisma."

Hope this can help you feel better about being bald :-)




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Ahab

04.09.2016, 02:47

@ Bezzzo

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

People like you remind me of the Fox in one of Aesop's fables:

"Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength.

"As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'

People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves."


When was the last bald president elected to office?

Seems to me it was Eisenhower--but his opponent, Stevenson, was just as bald or balder. So the people had no choice.

But since then, the hairiest candidate always wins.

Now, if you want to do some good, stop contributing to the erroneous belief that baldness isn't a serious condition.

Because if baldness were recognized as serious, then the FDA would be quicker to give permissions and approvals for trials and for treatments.

And if baldness were recognized as serious, investors would realize that it's not silly to find a cure for baldness, so they wouldn't laugh a pharmaceutical CEO out of the boardroom for wanting to do it.

Heck, if baldness were recognized as serious, maybe Obamacare would even pay for Propecia--why not, if it pays for birth control pills for women?.




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Bezzzo

04.09.2016, 09:17

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I think that anyone that knows anything about investing would
assume that a cure or a treatment option to regain your hair would be an investment opportunity of a lifetime. The whole hairloss industry relies on the insecurities of men.

With that said, 4 of the last 5 prime ministers of Australia were bald, balding and 7 of the last 10 uk prime ministers were bald, balding. But seriously, are we really debating whether or not presidents/prime
ministers are elected into office because of their hair? That's
crazy.

I never said hair loss was not a serious issue, it is, it has serious affects on the mental suffering of its patients. But that's exactly what it is, a psychological issue, nothing else. You are not limited any in any way by being bald, well, we probably wont feature in any shampoo ads on tv, haha. You're only limited by your emotional state. At the end of the day, there are a lot more diseases, finding of cures that are more deserving of funding and research than MPB. Not that there shouldn't be any funding and research into MPB, i'm not saying that, but dont you think that say a disease like cystic fibrosis with a life expectancy of 30-40 deserves a little more attention than MPB?

"It's an incurable, genetic disease, where sufferers have thick
mucus clogging their lungs. Because of scarring from infection,
a sufferer will either slowly suffocate - leaving their lungs
unable to supply enough oxygen to the body - or their immune
system loses the battle against infections."

Be thankful you're just losing your hair and that it's nothing more medically serious than that.

Please don't take this the wrong way, i'm not trying to say "just suck it up!" by any means. I'm trying to point out that you don't have to suffer like you think you do, you can overcome it like i did if you're willing to overcome your insecurities.

Anyway, i feel you don't want to be helped. But we're all here for you when you need mate, sincerely.




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cal

05.09.2016, 05:51

@ Bezzzo

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Vin Diesel doesn't need hair to get success & women but he sure needs muscles & a tan.

Johnny Depp doesn't need muscles & a tan to get success and women. But he sure needs good hair.


Eisenhower didn't need hair but he sure needed his war record & brains.

Reagan needed good hair if he ever wanted to get past the primaries.



Cosmetic problems don't have the same effect on everyone.




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jarjarbinx

05.09.2016, 16:49

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Originally Posted by cal

Vin Diesel doesn't need hair to get success & women but he sure needs muscles & a tan.

Johnny Depp doesn't need muscles & a tan to get success and women. But he sure needs good hair.


Eisenhower didn't need hair but he sure needed his war record & brains.

Reagan needed good hair if he ever wanted to get past the primaries.



Cosmetic problems don't have the same effect on everyone.



That all sounds insightful and smart until you stop to think about it and realize it's actually neither smart nor insightful.

First of all, you have no idea whether or not Van Diesel has women. If he
has women it's only because he's a star with money. And if he has women then he wouldn't have women if he wasn't rich and famous.

Depp is getting ugly as he ages and soon his women will be gone too unless he buys them or perhaps his star power will get him women.

Anyway, the thing is that you are talking about rich and famous people here and that is not the same as talking about regular Joes.




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Ahab

06.09.2016, 21:52

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

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Ahab

06.09.2016, 21:54

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I knew a guy who didn't make a lot of money, but who drove a Mercedes.

The car looked nice and shiny and pretty.

But it had half a million miles on it, needed a new engine, the suspension was shot, and the transmission had no reverse.

So, sure. Bald guys can have a pretty looking girl just like poor guys can have a pretty looking Mercedes.

Proves nothing.




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Ahab

06.09.2016, 22:22
(edited by Ahab, 06.09.2016, 23:06)

@ Bezzzo

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

"I think that anyone that knows anything about investing would
assume that a cure or a treatment option to regain your hair would be an investment opportunity of a lifetime."


So that's why Pfizer, Novartis, Brystol-Myers Squibb, Lilly and so many other big pharmas are scrambling to cure hair loss. Gee, who would have thought.


"With that said, 4 of the last 5 prime ministers of Australia were bald, balding and 7 of the last 10 uk prime ministers were bald, balding. But seriously, are we really debating whether or not presidents/prime
ministers are elected into office because of their hair? That's crazy."


Like I said, who was the last bald president of the USA elected to office? Funny thing is, since the invention of TV (visual) Eisenhower was the last one (and his opponent, Stevenson, was as bald or balder, so voters had no choice). Most elected presidents have hair up the wazoo despite being in their forties, fifties, and sixties when elected.

"I never said hair loss was not a serious issue, it is, it has serious affects [sic] on the mental suffering of its patients. But that's exactly what it is, a psychological issue, nothing else."

The younger the man, the less likely he is to be bald and the more likely he is to have hair. Younger men are also more fertile than older men.

That is proof that sexual selection favors hairy men.

"You are not limited any in any way by being bald, well, we probably wont feature in any shampoo ads on tv, haha. You're only limited by your emotional state. At the end of the day, there are a lot more diseases, finding of cures that are more deserving of funding and research than MPB. Not that there shouldn't be any funding and research into MPB, i'm not saying that, but dont you think that say a disease like cystic fibrosis with a life expectancy of 30-40 deserves a little more attention than MPB?"


No, I don't agree.

Hair loss increases your chances of having fewer or no children (proof of this is, as I mentioned above, the rareness of the expression of genes for baldness in men in their younger, more fertile years).

Anything that f*cks with an animal's ability to pass its genes to the next generation is very, very serious.

Like I said, the Aesops' fox comforts himself by convincing himself that what he cannot have isn't that important to have.

But it takes courage to admit you are hopelessly f*cked by something you want but cannot have.

Not to mention that only 70,000 people in the whole world (just ~30,000 in the USA) have cystic fibrosis. Not much of a market there for the big pharmas to find a cure.

Yet worldwide more billions of men and women suffer serious hair loss, and plenty of them in rich countries where people can afford expensive treatments.

But hey, Vin Diesel has a girlfriend, so hair loss isn't serious.

There is a prejudice against bald people. Unlike racial minorities and women and gays and AIDs sufferers--we aren't even afforded the dignity of that prejudice being acknowledged.

And people like you are the Uncle Toms of hair loss.




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cal

10.09.2016, 08:45

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

That all sounds insightful and smart until you stop to think about it and realize it's actually neither smart nor insightful.

First of all, you have no idea whether or not Van Diesel has women. If he
has women it's only because he's a star with money. And if he has women then he wouldn't have women if he wasn't rich and famous.

Depp is getting ugly as he ages and soon his women will be gone too unless he buys them or perhaps his star power will get him women.

Anyway, the thing is that you are talking about rich and famous people here and that is not the same as talking about regular Joes.



This kind of response reminds me why I don't spent much time on this forum anymore.

I basically said "not everyone likes the same things you like." And you responded "that's a stupid rationale since those other people are probably lying."

It makes my head hurt just reading stuff like this.




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jarjarbinx

11.09.2016, 16:42

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

No Cal, you didn't say "not everyone likes the same things".

You tried to tell us that Van Disel has women but you don't know if Van Disel does or doesn't have women. And if he does have women it's only because he's a star.

You tried to tell us that Depp doesn't need hair to get women without mentioning that Depp just lost the hottest woman he ever had, and his looks are fading so his days of women wanting him may be almost over.

You talked about Eisenhower and Eisenhower did have a few women but he was not a big stud.

I'm challenging the examples you used. If your examples don't hold up then maybe your overall point is wrong too. I shouldn't have to agree with your examples if your examples don't add up.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
11.09.2016, 17:43

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Bill Clinton carried on with much younger women well into his 40s, 50s, and even 60s (per tabloid reports)... But look at how many affairs with younger women Bernie Sanders has had.




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Norwood3

12.09.2016, 04:47

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I don't understand what you guys are debating here, the subject line is "men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful"

This is a fact. Period.

This is also self fulfilling, people who are perceived to be more attractive do get more opportunities and better opportunity means more likely to be successful.




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cal

12.09.2016, 11:45

@ Norwood3

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

No Cal, you didn't say "not everyone likes the same things".

You tried to tell us that Van Disel has women but you don't know if Van Disel does or doesn't have women. And if he does have women it's only because he's a star.

You tried to tell us that Depp doesn't need hair to get women without mentioning that Depp just lost the hottest woman he ever had, and his looks are fading so his days of women wanting him may be almost over.

You talked about Eisenhower and Eisenhower did have a few women but he was not a big stud.

I'm challenging the examples you used. If your examples don't hold up then maybe your overall point is wrong too. I shouldn't have to agree with your examples if your examples don't add up.


You didn't even read my original comment correctly in the first place.




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jarjarbinx

13.09.2016, 02:32

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Cal, it's not just him. I also inferred something totally different from what you intended in your post. No offense, but I think it's the way you worded it. I don't mean you any disrespect but your post did not say what you intended. If you had simply said what you intended (that everybody in the world does not like the exact same thing) then I would have said there's some validity to your point, but that is not how your post is being interpreted by some of us. Sorry.




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cal

14.09.2016, 00:26

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

My exact words:

"Johnny Depp doesn't need muscles & a tan to get success and women. But he sure needs good hair."


Your interpretation:

"you tried to tell us that Depp doesn't need hair to get women . . . "




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
14.09.2016, 15:38

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I have to say that I agree with Jarjar and some others here that hair matters to women, EXCEPT for one big point: Women don't really care about a guy's looks EXCEPT for the hair part. That is, the average woman will gladly take a guy with a clearly ugly face (and she'll even joke outright that his face is ugly -- she'll find it "endearing"), AS LONG AS he has a full head of hair. A full head of hair COMPLETELY negates the "ugly" factor. Women talk about men's facial appearance a lot (just like men talk about women's facial features a lot), but when it comes down to it, women will gladly take an ugly, or old and wrinkled, male face as long as it's topped by a FULL head of hair.




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jarjarbinx

14.09.2016, 15:50

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

You're right about that Cal. That is what you said about Johnny Depp. My mistake.

That aside, your point is that some men don't need hair to achieve success but IMO that depends on what kind of success you're talking about. In your post you're mixing up different kinds of success. For example, when you talk about success for some guys you are clearly talking about success with women but when you talk about success for other guys you're talking about political success or stardom success with other guys. You bounce between the different types of success from line to line.

OK Eisenhower didn't need hair to become President but he wasn't much of a stud.

Depp needs hair to play some of the parts he's played but not all of the parts he's played, For his portrayal of Bugler they made him appear to have less hair so maybe he can do some acting without all of his hair and he can always wear wigs for parts that require hair.

You also talk about how some men don't need hair to be studs but you have no proof those men are studs. And if those bald men are studs then I posit tat they're using money to buy the women.




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cal

14.09.2016, 23:40

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I only used the examples of Vin Diesel and Johnny Depp because they are familiar to all of us. The same principles apply to poorer everyday men too, even though the total amount of success/women is lower than celebs.



As for hair single-handedly bailing out a guy for having an ugly face? I flatly disagree with that.

Oh sure, it works that way for some guys, in the eyes of some women. But with other pairs of people it does not.




Look, I agree that it's always better to have hair if you have a choice. Even the Vin Diesels of the world are better off with a buzzed-down NW#2 than a buzzed-down NW#7. "I just love shiny-bald guys with horseshoes of hair around the back" - was said by no woman ever.

But exactly how much difference does it make? That varies widely.



What really helps (in all sorts of little ways all over your life) is looking healthy & young & attractive. Hair is one component of that picture. It helps more often than not but some guys have a "look" that needs it more than others. Some guys are better off with their heads totally buzzed down although not the majority.

Some guys suffer very little damage to their appearance from going bald. Others get trainwrecked by it.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
15.09.2016, 02:31

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Example of a man with an ugly face, but good (full) head of hair where it redeems his looks for women: William Macy. It DOES NOT make him hot, or a stud, etc. He's still ugly. But women don't care about his ugliness, because the full head of hair looks youthful and healthy...

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Example of a man whose face isn't bad looking, but whose looks are COMPLETELY spoiled by baldness: Louis CK. Imagine if Louis CK had a full head of hair, and stood side by side with William Macy, who has a full head of hair. Louis CK would clearly be better looking. But I am sure that most women would vastly choose William Macy as he is (with hair), over Louis CK as he is (without hair), based on looks alone. (Louis CK would certainly get some extra points for being funny, but I'm talking about LOOKS ALONE in the eyes of women.)

[image]

Women do not care about an ugly mug, as long as that ugly mug has a full, thick, lush head of hair.




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cal

15.09.2016, 03:08

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Those examples apply more to media careers. I wouldn't assume Macy would always do better with women than CK in real life.

They are also extreme examples. Macy's hair looks so perfectly styled and cut and dyed. That hair is more photogenic in that pic than a lot of guys have when they are teenagers.

Louis CK's baldness-emphasizing haircut is arguably out of style today. He might be better off shaving down shorter. Hair length needs to go down when the Norwood gets that high or it just draws attention to the MPB.




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Lyn

15.09.2016, 04:09

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Money is always the great equalizer and as we get older, money trumps hair.




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jarjarbinx

15.09.2016, 04:17

@ Lyn

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Nope.

Bruce Willis recently lamented that he had a lot more women when he was a bartender than he has now that he's a celebrity.

When I was young I had women all over me. They supplied more money to the relationships than I did. Now I'm getting older, I have lots of money, little hair and very few women.

You are dead wrong.




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Ahab

15.09.2016, 20:22

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Would you want your sons to grow up bald?

Well women don't want to have bald kids either, so why should they mate with bald men?

(Unless the woman is ugly or old or fat or crippled/disfigured or retarded or unhealthy or smells bad or is herself bald, and so has no other options. Or if she has hairy children already from her hairy ex-husband, then she may actually prefer a bald "nice guy" she can control, and who in exchange for her sexual favors, will pay for the raising of the kids she made with her ex husband--and who may also drop a kid or two for the bald guy to 1. better tie him to her, and 2. to hedge her own unconsciously made evolutionary bets, in the event that bald men one day turn out to be better fitted for survival. Who knows, with the onset of global warming, maybe being bald will turn out to be an evolutionary advantage because it keeps you cooler).




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superhl

16.09.2016, 01:13

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

It's called age. That happens to all men regardless whether they have hair or not. In fact Jarjar, I willing to bet if you had a head full of hair you would not have anymore women. Sorry, hair is nice but if you are young and good looking, women will flock to you regardless if you have hair or not. You could have a head full of hair, but if you are old, well you are not going to be attractive to the women. It is what it is!




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jarjarbinx

16.09.2016, 03:50
(edited by jarjarbinx, 16.09.2016, 04:08)

@ superhl

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

That's the cool thing about being on the internet and proclaiming stuff - you can allege any ole bs. And in fact, you ARE wrong.

If I got my hair back tomorrow I would have a lot of women hitting on me. I'm in my 40s, not my 70s.

I have virtually NO wrinkles or skin damage of any kind.

I live in the Pacific Northwest with a lot of cloud cover and I work indoors. I have recently put a wig on at a department store just for laughs and if I got my hair back today I would like almost exactly the same as I did in my 20s.

You can bet any ole false crap you want to but just to keep the record straight I will inform you that what you are saying about my looks is CRAP.


Oh and also science is getting closer and closer to reversing the entire overall aging process anyway so they may make me 21 again in the next 10 years or so. Check this out:

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2015/01/telomere-extension-turns-back-aging-clock-in-cultured-cells.html

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/45947/title/First-Data-from-Anti-Aging-Gene-Therapy/

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jul/24/elizabeth-parrish-gene-therapy-ageing




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Ahab

16.09.2016, 05:19

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

How many times I gotta say it? The voters had to choose between Eisenhower and the equally bald or balder Stevenson. So of course a bald candidate won that year.

Plus, TV campaigning was then just beginning, with a large proportion of voters still having radios with no TVs.

But by the next election TV campaigning--i.e., very visual campaigning--was the norm (just a dozen years earlier, campaigning was still done by whistle stops from the back of trains, by radio, and in print).

And so from Kennedy onward most voters looked at TV to decide who to vote for.

And what the voters saw started to make a difference.

Example: people who watched the Kennedy/Nixon debates on TV, thought the better looking--and hairier--Kennedy won the debates.

But people who still only listened to the debates on the radio, thought that Nixon won the debates.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
16.09.2016, 18:30
(edited by roger_that, 16.09.2016, 18:47)

@ superhl

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Oh, come on. People here are out of touch with reality in their perceptions of what women are attracted to.

Actually, most women skew to being attracted to somewhat OLDER men. This is a fact. An older man with a full head of hair, even graying hair, and some wrinkles or "character lines" (assuming he also keeps his body reasonably fit) can be extremely sought after by women who are even 20 years or more younger than he is. He is considered "sexy","distinguished", "suave" or "debonaire". Even if he doesn't have a ton of money, with a reasonably trim body AND a full head of hair, he can still pull lots of significantly younger women. Even if he's poor, he can still be considered a "rake", an "alley cat" or a "dawg".

On the other hand, an older man who is balding or bald and hits on younger women is seen as a shlub, a weirdo or a "dirty old man" and is never sought after by younger women, unless he is very wealthy, and even then, it's in a cynical way.




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cal

17.09.2016, 02:18

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Originally Posted by roger_that

Oh, come on. People here are out of touch with reality in their perceptions of what women are attracted to.

Actually, most women skew to being attracted to somewhat OLDER men. This is a fact. An older man with a full head of hair, even graying hair, and some wrinkles or "character lines" (assuming he also keeps his body reasonably fit) can be extremely sought after by women who are even 20 years or more younger than he is. He is considered "sexy","distinguished", "suave" or "debonaire". Even if he doesn't have a ton of money, with a reasonably trim body AND a full head of hair, he can still pull lots of significantly younger women. Even if he's poor, he can still be considered a "rake", an "alley cat" or a "dawg".

On the other hand, an older man who is balding or bald and hits on younger women is seen as a shlub, a weirdo or a "dirty old man" and is never sought after by younger women, unless he is very wealthy, and even then, it's in a cynical way.



Very good job of shooting down an assertion that nobody made.




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jarjarbinx

17.09.2016, 18:12
(edited by jarjarbinx, 17.09.2016, 18:34)

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Cal, I hate to say it but you appear to have some cognizance issues. Are you OK?

Let me remind you what's going on in this discussion:

1. According to you, YOU yourself tried to advance the idea that people like different things. It appeared you were really trying to make the point that there are lots of women who don't care about men's hair and this is proved by the fact that some balding men have success with women, however it should be noted that you were erratically bouncing all over the page with many types of success, rather than just success with women. In some cases you were talking about success with women while and in other cases you were talking about financial success and in other cases you were talking about political success and in other cases you were talking about military success and in other cases you were alluding to Hollywood success.

2. Since it appeared you were mostly trying to focus on success with women I DISAGREED WITH YOU and I pointed out that you were confusing the issue by moving from one type of success (success with women) to many other types of success. And with regards to success with women, I pointed out that I had lots of women when I had my hair and since I've lost a lot of hair the overwhelming majority of those women are GONE.

3. Poster "Superhl" challenged my assertion by indicating it's my overall aging process, rather than my hair loss, that has made women lose interest in me. By challenging my assertion "Superhl" was SUPPORTING YOUR POSITION, including your position that there is a good amount of women who truly don't care about men's hair.

4. Roger correctly pointed out to "Superhl" that men who age with their hair retain a good measure of their ability to attract women whereas the men who lose their hair as they age do not.

In the macro-sense Roger's response to "Superhl's" post is totally connected to the overall general discussion you started and in the micro-sense Roger's response is totally connected to "Superhl's" post that it's aging rather than hair loss that has caused women to lose interest in me. I don't understand why you don't recognize this.

It appears you might have some cognizance issues - perhaps related to depression about hair loss.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
17.09.2016, 22:46

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Sometimes I have to wonder if cal is all there...




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cal

18.09.2016, 04:43

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I am (consistently) arguing that people are not as predictable & consistent as you two think. I guess it makes perfect sense if you struggle to follow me.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
18.09.2016, 13:23

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

loose associations
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loose as·so·ci·a·tions (lūs ă-sō'sē-ā'shŭnz)

A manifestation of a severe thought disorder whereby the patient's responses do not relate to the interviewer's questions or one paragraph, sentence, or phrase is not logically connected to those that occur before or after.
Synonym(s): loosening of associations.




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jarjarbinx

18.09.2016, 16:57
(edited by jarjarbinx, 18.09.2016, 17:29)

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Cal,

1. I said I had lots of women when I had my hair and now that I have lost a bunch of hair almost all of those women are gone.

2. Superhl said my loss of women is because I have aged rather than because I've lost hair.

3. I said that other than losing hair my looks have changed very little as I have aged.

4. Roger added that older guys retain their ability to attract women as long as they keep their hair.

5. You then said Roger's post was not in response to anything said to that point even though Roger's post fits very nicely as a response to Superhls post.


Cal, why do you think Roger's response to Superhl's post doesn't work as a response to Superhl's post?




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
18.09.2016, 17:11

@ jarjarbinx

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I wouldn't prod him too much on these things. Cal has never taken any aspect of the discussions on here seriously. He just says what he wants to say, with lazy thinking and unclear associations. (Another frequent technique he uses is pseudo-scientific loose generalizations, when the discussion turns to scientific subjects.) Let him have his fun using his lazy thought processes and vague arguments to try to mess with people. It's probably the high point in his day when he makes one of those non-sequitur posts.

I respect it when someone disagrees with me, and sometimes (rarely) cal is able to coherently explain why, but usually he shows he doesn't care much for the discussion or for the people in the discussion. He's one of those "debaters" who starts out having zero respect for the other debaters (easy to do, I guess, on the internet where you don't know the other posters)... like, he doesn't owe anyone here the energy of making an honestly argued post, because it's "just" the internet.

Well, I can sort of understand that attitude. It's very rude to other people to "argue" like that, but if that's how he wants to roll, I say, let him roll that way, it's useless to try to argue with someone like that. Not really worth my time.




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cal

19.09.2016, 15:03
(edited by cal, 19.09.2016, 15:48)

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

I just went back and re-read the whole thread. Turns out I did miss the connection with superhl's point leading to Rogers's comment. My apologies for that.



Roger, I don't respect people who want more credit just for having brains. I don't respect people who want more credit just for using their brains either, if they didn't use them in a practical effective way.


I highly respect whatever works. So far none of us have very much of that when it comes to regaining lost hair. Over the years your track record of HM predictions has struck me as being better than average around here but it does not nearly justify your attitude.




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Ahab

19.09.2016, 20:49

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Everything makes a difference. And hair makes a big difference.

Oh sure, you might see a Norwood 5 horseshoe with a very good looking woman on his arm, but that of itself means nothing.

For example, he might be rich and she's using him. But when you see them in a restaurant or on the street, she's not going to be carrying around a sign saying "I'm just using this chump"

Scientific studies show conclusively that couples tend to be equally attractive.

So if you want a really nice looking girl, you have to be equally nice looking (that includes hair and being in shape).

There are exceptions.

But billionaires are also exceptions.

Lottery winners are also exceptions.

People who live to be 125 years old are also exceptions.

People who smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day and die of old age, are also exceptions.

Etc.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
19.09.2016, 22:42
(edited by roger_that, 19.09.2016, 23:09)

@ Ahab

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

The formula to be extremely popular with women is really very simple. In general, men of whatever age or financial means who tend to be successful with women (if that's what they want), have the following, in this order of importance:

1) A FULL head of hair... NO hair loss, no receding hair line, no baldness. (In fact, as a rule, the thicker looking, the better!)

2) From the side, their body profile (especially the abdomen) runs straight up and down... No bulge, no gut.

3) They are not ultra short... I mean, like 5'5" or under. (Note that many women these days are willing even to forgive shortness if the guy is ultra confident, so I put this "requirement" in last place.)

Being wealthy definitely helps mitigate any or all of the above things, but few people have the kind of money to truly negate these factors.

All of the other things that people think are important -- having a super-handsome face, good personality, funny, intelligent, great career, muscles, etc., even being extremely good in bed -- may help, but are NOT REQUIRED.

The only things that are REQUIRED are 1, 2, and 3 in that order of importance.

Note: This is NOT to say that a bald, bald/fat, or bald/short man can't get any women ever. Certainly they do. The only reason for this post is to delineate precisely the characteristics that correlate the MOST with being extremely successful with women.

Note that being a little bit overweight (issue #2) is pretty easily fixable. Being ultra short is not fixable, but afflicts few men and indeed, many women are willing to overlook this unless the guy is so short he looks really weird. The only item on that list that's really hard to mitigate, or compensate for significantly, is hair loss. As we all know, the existing options aren't great... if they were, none of us would be here discussing potential hair loss cures.

The other big takeaway that I've mentioned but bears repeating: If a guy meets requirements 1, 2 and 3, then no matter how old he is, he can still attract a lot of women. Women actually tend to be attracted to older men, on the whole, but the older man has to be considered "sexy". I've noticed that many women declare men of whatever age, who meet requirements 1, 2 and 3, to be "sexy" -- even guys who are 20 or 30 years older than they are -- and no matter what the guy's face looks like.




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cal

20.09.2016, 05:59

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

If you really think being 5'4" is less of a drawback than being a NW#3, you're delusional.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
21.09.2016, 00:30

@ cal

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

To be clear, I said "ultra short" leading to not being able to attract women STARTS under 5'5, so by that standard, being 5'4" would be more of a liability than having MPB.

But you're right -- I was exaggerating somewhat on that one. It's not as clear-cut as that. But then, you have extremely short men like Michael J. Fox, who has always been considered pretty attractive by many women, and Tom Cruise who is about 5'7" but is considered very sexy and gets the hottest women on the planet. You have musician Jamie Cullen who is 5'5" and married to a tall, hot blonde model. What do these guys have in common, besides shortness? A very full head of hair. Just imagine if any of these guys were balding... where would they be with respect to getting the women of their choice?




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cal

21.09.2016, 06:25

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Tom Cruise? Michael J. Fox?

Those guys are actors. Actors have whole camera crews shooting and editing around their height. Hollywood will literally build shorter sets and cast shorter co-stars if that is what it takes.

By the time women are meeting those guys in real life the impressions are made. The crushes are already formed. The larger-than-life aura is there to help make up for their size problems.




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YM

23.09.2016, 04:01

@ roger_that

Men with hair are perceived as 'more attractive, approachable and successful'

Originally Posted by roger_that

It's not as clear-cut as that. But then, you have extremely short men like Michael J. Fox, who has always been considered pretty attractive by many women, and Tom Cruise who is about 5'7" but is considered very sexy and gets the hottest women on the planet. You have musician Jamie Cullen who is 5'5" and married to a tall, hot blonde model. What do these guys have in common, besides shortness? A very full head of hair. Just imagine if any of these guys were balding... where would they be with respect to getting the women of their choice?


What else do Michael J Fox, Tom Cruise , Jamie Cullum have in common?
Money, power, fame. Ever think of it this way?

I m sure they will be just fine finding an attractive women even without hair.




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