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Khalil

06.05.2011, 17:53
 

Latisse getting Media Attention (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOu4XTuq1s

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/latisse-balding-cure_n_858575.html


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_MindBodyNews/latisse-eyelash-enhancer-thickens-thinning-hair/story?id=13536165




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FloatTrip

06.05.2011, 21:56

@ Khalil

Latisse getting Media Attention

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2014964410_hairdrug05.html?syndication=rss

The guy in the article link above said it started to work in his temples in 3 weeks.

Has anyone tried the generic version of Latisse?

http://www.4rx.com/online-pharmacy/categories/eye-care/bimatoprost.html

I would just be interested in seeing if it worked for my temple area, which is the hardest area for regrowth.




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Khalil

06.05.2011, 22:37

@ FloatTrip

Latisse getting Media Attention

» http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2014964410_hairdrug05.html?syndication=rss
»
» The guy in the article link above said it started to work in his temples in
» 3 weeks.
»
» Has anyone tried the generic version of Latisse?
»
» http://www.4rx.com/online-pharmacy/categories/eye-care/bimatoprost.html
»
» I would just be interested in seeing if it worked for my temple area, which
» is the hardest area for regrowth.

Its too expensive for most people. Also latisse may not be potent enough to work for scalp hair.

We should wait untill they sell high doses of bimaprost to see the results




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FloatTrip

06.05.2011, 23:10

@ Khalil

Latisse getting Media Attention

Dude - doctors are already prescribing Latisse off-label for hairloss and eyebrows. Some have been doing so for a couple years.

It's available for $11 generic here:

http://www.alldaychemist.com/936_Latisse

Is that too high for you?




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GoGiants1

07.05.2011, 00:27

@ FloatTrip

Latisse getting Media Attention

» Dude - doctors are already prescribing Latisse off-label for hairloss and
» eyebrows. Some have been doing so for a couple years.
»
» It's available for $11 generic here:
»
» http://www.alldaychemist.com/936_Latisse
»
» Is that too high for you?

i thought they came to the conclusion that it's not in a strong enough formula for scalp hair?



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FloatTrip

07.05.2011, 03:29

@ GoGiants1

Latisse getting Media Attention

Not sure where you heard that. In the media interviews I've seen at the links presented, the dermatologist said 70% of his patients respond to it. I seriously doubt the dermatologist is concocting a stronger version of the drug. He's simply prescribing it off-label.




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ilab

07.05.2011, 05:57

@ GoGiants1

Latisse getting Media Attention

Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it worth a shot?




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Freddie555

07.05.2011, 09:12

@ ilab

Latisse getting Media Attention

» Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it worth a shot?

i'd like to know too.

we'd need this stuff by the bucket load though, not in tiny bottles.




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Z79

07.05.2011, 11:24

@ ilab

Latisse getting Media Attention

» Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it worth a shot?

used it for a couple of month and it did nothing. Guess I am one of the unlucky 30 % non responders.......




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FloatTrip

07.05.2011, 16:39

@ Z79

Latisse getting Media Attention

Here's the doc who claims 70% success rate with his patients for the generic version of Latisse:

http://www.baumanmedical.com/

I'm interested in trying it for my temple / front hairline area since one of his patients claimed it worked on the temples in 3 weeks.




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nemo.shark

08.05.2011, 06:11

@ FloatTrip

Latisse getting Media Attention

» Here's the doc who claims 70% success rate with his patients for the
» generic version of Latisse:
»
» http://www.baumanmedical.com/
»
» I'm interested in trying it for my temple / front hairline area since one
» of his patients claimed it worked on the temples in 3 weeks.


i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im correct by saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women use for their eye lash hair which was discovered to grow hair?? im wondering if its the same stuff??? this stuff im on about was discovered in world war 2 when it was applied to the face burns of wounded personnel, and it grew back the hair on the people it was applied to even on areas that were totally disfigured through burns and the peoples burns it was not applied to lost their hair for good, i think the name of this stuff was called talika, i bought some years ago, ill try and have a look and see if ive still got it hanging about so i can get the right name of it.




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nemo.shark

08.05.2011, 06:28

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » Here's the doc who claims 70% success rate with his patients for the
» » generic version of Latisse:
» »
» » http://www.baumanmedical.com/
» »
» » I'm interested in trying it for my temple / front hairline area since
» one
» » of his patients claimed it worked on the temples in 3 weeks.
»
»
» i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im correct by
» saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women use for
» their eye lash hair which was discovered to grow hair?? im wondering if its
» the same stuff??? this stuff im on about was discovered in world war 2 when
» it was applied to the face burns of wounded personnel, and it grew back the
» hair on the people it was applied to even on areas that were totally
» disfigured through burns and the peoples burns it was not applied to lost
» their hair for good, i think the name of this stuff was called talika, i
» bought some years ago, ill try and have a look and see if ive still got it
» hanging about so i can get the right name of it.

yeah still had the box it was called talika, both seem very similar, why doesnt some one do a patent search for these two things and we can see if we can get some strong worthwhile stuff made up at a lab in china??




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Freddie555

08.05.2011, 08:21

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im correct by
» saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women use for
» their eye lash hair

See here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw




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"When true Hair Multiplication comes, it will arise out of the East." - John The Revelator, Feb. 18, 2001


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nemo.shark

08.05.2011, 22:25

@ Freddie555

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im correct
» by
» » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women use
» for
» » their eye lash hair
»
» See here :
»
» http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw


hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same way??




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Stevie.Dee

08.05.2011, 22:40

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im correct
» » by
» » » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women use
» » for
» » » their eye lash hair
» »
» » See here :
» »
» » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw
»
»
» hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same way??

I think its funny that FIN and Minox seems more and more outdated like hell what a wild year 2010/2011 was




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nemo.shark

08.05.2011, 23:05

@ Stevie.Dee

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im
» correct
» » » by
» » » » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women
» use
» » » for
» » » » their eye lash hair
» » »
» » » See here :
» » »
» » » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw
» »
» »
» » hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same way??
»
» I think its funny that FIN and Minox seems more and more outdated like hell
» what a wild year 2010/2011 was

right your all gonna thank me for this if this stuff works for any of you lot, the active ingrediants is called Bimatoprost (CAS 155206-00-1).
Used topically to control glaucoma and manage ocular hypertension.

Bimatoprost
Systematic (IUPAC) name: 7-[3,5-dihydroxy-2- (3-hydroxy-5-phenyl-pent-1-enyl)- cyclopentyl]-N-ethyl-hept-5-enamide
Identifiers
CAS number: 155206-00-1
ATC code: S01EE03
PubChem: CID 5311027
IUPHAR ligand: 1958
DrugBank: APRD00826
ChemSpider: 4470565
UNII: QXS94885MZ

this is all the info you need to get a powerful solution of it made up, im getting in touch with a place now to see about the cost of it, if 0.03mg works then a 5% solution is gonna be crazy!




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Freddie555

09.05.2011, 03:55

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» this is all the info you need to get a powerful solution of it made up, im
» getting in touch with a place now to see about the cost of it, if 0.03mg
» works then a 5% solution is gonna be crazy!

let us know how it goes.




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jarjarbinx

09.05.2011, 05:25

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im
» » correct
» » » » by
» » » » » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that women
» » use
» » » » for
» » » » » their eye lash hair
» » » »
» » » » See here :
» » » »
» » » » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw
» » »
» » »
» » » hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same way??
» »
» » I think its funny that FIN and Minox seems more and more outdated like
» hell
» » what a wild year 2010/2011 was
»
» right your all gonna thank me for this if this stuff works for any of you
» lot, the active ingrediants is called Bimatoprost (CAS 155206-00-1).
» Used topically to control glaucoma and manage ocular hypertension.
»
» Bimatoprost
» Systematic (IUPAC) name: 7-[3,5-dihydroxy-2-
» (3-hydroxy-5-phenyl-pent-1-enyl)- cyclopentyl]-N-ethyl-hept-5-enamide
» Identifiers
» CAS number: 155206-00-1
» ATC code: S01EE03
» PubChem: CID 5311027
» IUPHAR ligand: 1958
» DrugBank: APRD00826
» ChemSpider: 4470565
» UNII: QXS94885MZ
»
» this is all the info you need to get a powerful solution of it made up, im
» getting in touch with a place now to see about the cost of it, if 0.03mg
» works then a 5% solution is gonna be crazy!


There you go. That's the way to do it. What this situation needs is a stronger dose. Doctors are already saying that Alergan used stronger doses in their phase 1 study that just completed. We also know that Hideo Uno used a stronger dose on macaques in the most famous study involving bimatoprost. We know that Hideo Uno got good results in those macaques but we also know that it is EASIER to grow hair on macaques than humans so we have to go even stronger than Hideo Uno used. 5% sounds like a good dose so you are on the right track but we also need to figure out what to mix it with. These compounds are soluble in different agents and you need to use the right vehicle. I think it's great that you are finding a way to get this stuff made pure so you can make a higher concentration topical but we also need to find out what other things should go inside that topical and I know the best way to do that:

Get the complete study by Hideo Uno where he used bimatoprost on macaques and it is a virtual certainty that he will have given complete details of the vehicle he used and I mean he will list the ingredients and the amount of each ingredient and at what interval to put each ingredient into the solution.

If you can get this stuff made pure then all you have left is to get that study which is easy enough to do, and you can create a 5% solution of bimatoprost using the exact same vehicle Hideo Uno used but your solution will be a higher dose of the active ingredient.

Go for it!!!!!
But first get Hideo Uno's study.
That's the smart play.
That study will answer any questions that you might have.
You make the same solution Hideo Uno did except you change the numbers a little bit so you will end up with a stronger dose.
GO FOR IT!!!!!




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nemo.shark

09.05.2011, 05:54

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » » » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im
» » » correct
» » » » » by
» » » » » » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that
» women
» » » use
» » » » » for
» » » » » » their eye lash hair
» » » » »
» » » » » See here :
» » » » »
» » » » » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same way??
» » »
» » » I think its funny that FIN and Minox seems more and more outdated like
» » hell
» » » what a wild year 2010/2011 was
» »
» » right your all gonna thank me for this if this stuff works for any of
» you
» » lot, the active ingrediants is called Bimatoprost (CAS 155206-00-1).
» » Used topically to control glaucoma and manage ocular hypertension.
» »
» » Bimatoprost
» » Systematic (IUPAC) name: 7-[3,5-dihydroxy-2-
» » (3-hydroxy-5-phenyl-pent-1-enyl)- cyclopentyl]-N-ethyl-hept-5-enamide
» » Identifiers
» » CAS number: 155206-00-1
» » ATC code: S01EE03
» » PubChem: CID 5311027
» » IUPHAR ligand: 1958
» » DrugBank: APRD00826
» » ChemSpider: 4470565
» » UNII: QXS94885MZ
» »
» » this is all the info you need to get a powerful solution of it made up,
» im
» » getting in touch with a place now to see about the cost of it, if 0.03mg
» » works then a 5% solution is gonna be crazy!
»
»
» There you go. That's the way to do it. What this situation needs is a
» stronger dose. Doctors are already saying that Alergan used stronger doses
» in their phase 1 study that just completed. We also know that Hideo Uno
» used a stronger dose on macaques in the most famous study involving
» bimatoprost. We know that Hideo Uno got good results in those macaques but
» we also know that it is EASIER to grow hair on macaques than humans so we
» have to go even stronger than Hideo Uno used. 5% sounds like a good dose
» so you are on the right track but we also need to figure out what to mix it
» with. These compounds are soluble in different agents and you need to use
» the right vehicle. I think it's great that you are finding a way to get
» this stuff made pure so you can make a higher concentration topical but we
» also need to find out what other things should go inside that topical and I
» know the best way to do that:
»
» Get the complete study by Hideo Uno where he used bimatoprost on macaques
» and it is a virtual certainty that he will have given complete details of
» the vehicle he used and I mean he will list the ingredients and the amount
» of each ingredient and at what interval to put each ingredient into the
» solution.
»
» If you can get this stuff made pure then all you have left is to get that
» study which is easy enough to do, and you can create a 5% solution of
» bimatoprost using the exact same vehicle Hideo Uno used but your solution
» will be a higher dose of the active ingredient.
»
» Go for it!!!!!
» But first get Hideo Uno's study.
» That's the smart play.
» That study will answer any questions that you might have.
» You make the same solution Hideo Uno did except you change the numbers a
» little bit so you will end up with a stronger dose.
» GO FOR IT!!!!!

jarjarbinx, nice one but where would that study have been published? the thing is we know it grows hair even in the eye drops solution, so i was going to use an eye drop solution, maybe be even the exact solution that is in the latisse eye drops, im sure they will have list the ingredients in the latisse eye drops??




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jarjarbinx

09.05.2011, 07:44

@ nemo.shark

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » » » » i heard about this stuff many years ago now, im not sure if im
» » » » correct
» » » » » » by
» » » » » » » saying this but it kinda reminds me of this other stuff that
» » women
» » » » use
» » » » » » for
» » » » » » » their eye lash hair
» » » » » »
» » » » » » See here :
» » » » » »
» » » » » » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBvdfOvXHw
» » » » »
» » » » »
» » » » » hmmm i wonder if any other glaucoma meds will work in the same
» way??
» » » »
» » » » I think its funny that FIN and Minox seems more and more outdated
» like
» » » hell
» » » » what a wild year 2010/2011 was
» » »
» » » right your all gonna thank me for this if this stuff works for any of
» » you
» » » lot, the active ingrediants is called Bimatoprost (CAS 155206-00-1).
» » » Used topically to control glaucoma and manage ocular hypertension.
» » »
» » » Bimatoprost
» » » Systematic (IUPAC) name: 7-[3,5-dihydroxy-2-
» » » (3-hydroxy-5-phenyl-pent-1-enyl)- cyclopentyl]-N-ethyl-hept-5-enamide
» » » Identifiers
» » » CAS number: 155206-00-1
» » » ATC code: S01EE03
» » » PubChem: CID 5311027
» » » IUPHAR ligand: 1958
» » » DrugBank: APRD00826
» » » ChemSpider: 4470565
» » » UNII: QXS94885MZ
» » »
» » » this is all the info you need to get a powerful solution of it made
» up,
» » im
» » » getting in touch with a place now to see about the cost of it, if
» 0.03mg
» » » works then a 5% solution is gonna be crazy!
» »
» »
» » There you go. That's the way to do it. What this situation needs is a
» » stronger dose. Doctors are already saying that Alergan used stronger
» doses
» » in their phase 1 study that just completed. We also know that Hideo Uno
» » used a stronger dose on macaques in the most famous study involving
» » bimatoprost. We know that Hideo Uno got good results in those macaques
» but
» » we also know that it is EASIER to grow hair on macaques than humans so
» we
» » have to go even stronger than Hideo Uno used. 5% sounds like a good
» dose
» » so you are on the right track but we also need to figure out what to mix
» it
» » with. These compounds are soluble in different agents and you need to
» use
» » the right vehicle. I think it's great that you are finding a way to get
» » this stuff made pure so you can make a higher concentration topical but
» we
» » also need to find out what other things should go inside that topical and
» I
» » know the best way to do that:
» »
» » Get the complete study by Hideo Uno where he used bimatoprost on
» macaques
» » and it is a virtual certainty that he will have given complete details
» of
» » the vehicle he used and I mean he will list the ingredients and the
» amount
» » of each ingredient and at what interval to put each ingredient into the
» » solution.
» »
» » If you can get this stuff made pure then all you have left is to get
» that
» » study which is easy enough to do, and you can create a 5% solution of
» » bimatoprost using the exact same vehicle Hideo Uno used but your
» solution
» » will be a higher dose of the active ingredient.
» »
» » Go for it!!!!!
» » But first get Hideo Uno's study.
» » That's the smart play.
» » That study will answer any questions that you might have.
» » You make the same solution Hideo Uno did except you change the numbers a
» » little bit so you will end up with a stronger dose.
» » GO FOR IT!!!!!
»
» jarjarbinx, nice one but where would that study have been published? the
» thing is we know it grows hair even in the eye drops solution, so i was
» going to use an eye drop solution, maybe be even the exact solution that is
» in the latisse eye drops, im sure they will have list the ingredients in
» the latisse eye drops??


That might be a good place for you to start but I will be looking for the study so that I can help you. I happen to live in Washington state and the primate center where Hideo Uno worked it is only about 75 miles south of me in Beaverton, Oregon or Tigard Oregon. Hideo Uno retired a few years ago so I can't get him on the phone specifically but they used to store all of his studies at that primate center even after he retired so I will start calling them this week to see if the primate center is still there, and if they are still there what there hours are, and then, if the center still exists, I will go to the center and get the study for you.

Give me about a week to get this done. That will be my project while you work on getting the bimatoprost made in pure form. You will want enough to make a 6-month supply at 5% active ingredient.

I will start working on this tomorrow and I should have your study for you inside of 10 days. I have to make it work with my work schedule but I will promise you now that if the center is still there I will get you the study inside of 10 days.




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Mr. Z

09.05.2011, 15:18

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the drug. It will increase the absorption of the drug.




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jarjarbinx

09.05.2011, 16:56

@ Mr. Z

Latisse getting Media Attention

» You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the drug. It
» will increase the absorption of the drug.

if he does what I am suggesting then he can increase the dose and he does so in a more scientific manner and so he can quantify everything he does. Please! He is already on the right track with his idea of creating a stronger solution.




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Mr. Z

09.05.2011, 21:31

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the drug.
» It
» » will increase the absorption of the drug.
»
» if he does what I am suggesting then he can increase the dose and he does
» so in a more scientific manner and so he can quantify everything he does.
» Please! He is already on the right track with his idea of creating a
» stronger solution.

What the hell are you talking about, scientific? You're going to have to use a foreign, unregulated (non gmp) chemical company to provide this for you...there is nothing scientific about that at all. They'll charge you an arm and a leg, and you'll have no guarantee that the chemical they provide you is the drug. Even if it is the drug, the purity will be unknown to you.

The easiest, and safest way is to get Latisse by prescription. And if you want to increase your exposure, you can dermaroll and then apply it.




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jarjarbinx

09.05.2011, 21:53

@ Mr. Z

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the drug.
» » It
» » » will increase the absorption of the drug.
» »
» » if he does what I am suggesting then he can increase the dose and he
» does
» » so in a more scientific manner and so he can quantify everything he does.
»
» » Please! He is already on the right track with his idea of creating a
» » stronger solution.
»
» What the hell are you talking about, scientific? You're going to have to
» use a foreign, unregulated (non gmp) chemical company to provide this for
» you...there is nothing scientific about that at all. They'll charge you an
» arm and a leg, and you'll have no guarantee that the chemical they provide
» you is the drug. Even if it is the drug, the purity will be unknown to
» you.
»
» The easiest, and safest way is to get Latisse by prescription. And if you
» want to increase your exposure, you can dermaroll and then apply it.

please advise about someone else about a different treatment please. We do not need mickey-mouse suggestions detering us from what was a great idea in the first place. He had it right the first time now we just have to figure out the correct vehicle and i already called the primate center and am waiting for a return call to get the study i was refering to so I will soon have the vehicle Uno used.

I happen to think bimatoprost will work so I would rather you go add your two cents somewhere else where you won't be doing any harm to a potential bimatoprost cure rather than adding your two cents here where you might slow down progress.

keep in mind that if needling bimatoprost is the answer doctors could already do that. Allergan is trying to make the right topical and that is what we should be doing to, but of course you want to slow us down with mickey mouse suggestions instead and that will only keep us all bald longer. I guess you want to stay bald as long as possible is why you want to slow progress down, but I would like to put an end to baldness asap so please go slow down progress in a different thread - a different medicine besides bimatoprost please. Maybe the guys in the astressin - b thread would want you over there slowing their progress down with your mickey mouse suggestions so you should just go over to the astressin - b thread and "help" them slow down progress on astressin - b instead of slowing down progress on bimatoprost. We need to be able to focus on getting the correct vehicle/formila for the next few weeks, and it doesn't help us one bit to get side-tracked with mickey mouse suggestions.




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Mr. Z

09.05.2011, 23:53

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the drug.
»
» » » It
» » » » will increase the absorption of the drug.
» » »
» » » if he does what I am suggesting then he can increase the dose and he
» » does
» » » so in a more scientific manner and so he can quantify everything he
» does.
» »
» » » Please! He is already on the right track with his idea of creating a
» » » stronger solution.
» »
» » What the hell are you talking about, scientific? You're going to have
» to
» » use a foreign, unregulated (non gmp) chemical company to provide this
» for
» » you...there is nothing scientific about that at all. They'll charge you
» an
» » arm and a leg, and you'll have no guarantee that the chemical they
» provide
» » you is the drug. Even if it is the drug, the purity will be unknown to
» » you.
» »
» » The easiest, and safest way is to get Latisse by prescription. And if
» you
» » want to increase your exposure, you can dermaroll and then apply it.
»
» please advise about someone else about a different treatment please. We do
» not need mickey-mouse suggestions detering us from what was a great idea in
» the first place. He had it right the first time now we just have to figure
» out the correct vehicle and i already called the primate center and am
» waiting for a return call to get the study i was refering to so I will soon
» have the vehicle Uno used.
»
» I happen to think bimatoprost will work so I would rather you go add your
» two cents somewhere else where you won't be doing any harm to a potential
» bimatoprost cure rather than adding your two cents here where you might
» slow down progress.
»
» keep in mind that if needling bimatoprost is the answer doctors could
» already do that. Allergan is trying to make the right topical and that is
» what we should be doing to, but of course you want to slow us down with
» mickey mouse suggestions instead and that will only keep us all bald
» longer. I guess you want to stay bald as long as possible is why you want
» to slow progress down, but I would like to put an end to baldness asap so
» please go slow down progress in a different thread - a different medicine
» besides bimatoprost please. Maybe the guys in the astressin - b thread
» would want you over there slowing their progress down with your mickey
» mouse suggestions so you should just go over to the astressin - b thread
» and "help" them slow down progress on astressin - b instead of slowing down
» progress on bimatoprost. We need to be able to focus on getting the
» correct vehicle/formila for the next few weeks, and it doesn't help us one
» bit to get side-tracked with mickey mouse suggestions.

You're a half-wit who doesn't understand a damn thing of what you're talking about. Kindly shut the fcuk up before you influence someone to harm themselves, you idiot.




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jarjarbinx

10.05.2011, 00:20

@ Mr. Z

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » » » » You want a stronger dose? Use skin needling when you apply the
» drug.
» »
» » » » It
» » » » » will increase the absorption of the drug.
» » » »
» » » » if he does what I am suggesting then he can increase the dose and he
» » » does
» » » » so in a more scientific manner and so he can quantify everything he
» » does.
» » »
» » » » Please! He is already on the right track with his idea of creating
» a
» » » » stronger solution.
» » »
» » » What the hell are you talking about, scientific? You're going to have
» » to
» » » use a foreign, unregulated (non gmp) chemical company to provide this
» » for
» » » you...there is nothing scientific about that at all. They'll charge
» you
» » an
» » » arm and a leg, and you'll have no guarantee that the chemical they
» » provide
» » » you is the drug. Even if it is the drug, the purity will be unknown
» to
» » » you.
» » »
» » » The easiest, and safest way is to get Latisse by prescription. And if
» » you
» » » want to increase your exposure, you can dermaroll and then apply it.
» »
» » please advise about someone else about a different treatment please. We
» do
» » not need mickey-mouse suggestions detering us from what was a great idea
» in
» » the first place. He had it right the first time now we just have to
» figure
» » out the correct vehicle and i already called the primate center and am
» » waiting for a return call to get the study i was refering to so I will
» soon
» » have the vehicle Uno used.
» »
» » I happen to think bimatoprost will work so I would rather you go add
» your
» » two cents somewhere else where you won't be doing any harm to a
» potential
» » bimatoprost cure rather than adding your two cents here where you might
» » slow down progress.
» »
» » keep in mind that if needling bimatoprost is the answer doctors could
» » already do that. Allergan is trying to make the right topical and that
» is
» » what we should be doing to, but of course you want to slow us down with
» » mickey mouse suggestions instead and that will only keep us all bald
» » longer. I guess you want to stay bald as long as possible is why you
» want
» » to slow progress down, but I would like to put an end to baldness asap
» so
» » please go slow down progress in a different thread - a different
» medicine
» » besides bimatoprost please. Maybe the guys in the astressin - b thread
» » would want you over there slowing their progress down with your mickey
» » mouse suggestions so you should just go over to the astressin - b thread
» » and "help" them slow down progress on astressin - b instead of slowing
» down
» » progress on bimatoprost. We need to be able to focus on getting the
» » correct vehicle/formila for the next few weeks, and it doesn't help us
» one
» » bit to get side-tracked with mickey mouse suggestions.
»
» You're a half-wit who doesn't understand a damn thing of what you're
» talking about. Kindly shut the fcuk up before you influence someone to
» harm themselves, you idiot.


and you're a quarter-wit that doesn't understand anything about anything. You say I'm going to get someone hurt by using a vehicle that is already used on macaques (by one of the top derms in the world) with NO side effects whatsoever, but you are telling someone to needle his skin which there is no record of anyone, or any animal, ever trying. There is no telling how much of this stuff will get into the skin by way of needling and each time he applies it a different amount could get absorbed whereas if he just creates a solution with a fixed concentration (say 5%) then we know exactly how much he received each application you moron.

We also know that in phase 1 studies Allergan used some vehicle to get this stuff on people's heads and we know that the vehicle Allergan used was NOT needling. You are the only person suggesting needling, but all of the scientists are simply using increased doses. You are a fool who doesn't know when to shut his flaphole and that makes you a problem because you waste people's time.

People need to do what the scientists are doing, not what some quarter-wit (you) at Hairsite recommends. Now please go to a different thread and waste their time or else go play in a sandbox somewhere while the adults here cure hairloss.




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silversurfer007

10.05.2011, 00:26

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

right on Mr. Z. Even if most of us are desperate for a more effective solution, I agree with you that we have to proceed with caution and that having some unknown company overseas manufacture a solution is not the right answer and could be harmful. Better start using the solution as it is and wait to see what the Allergan people come up with in their clinical trials as a better concentration for the hair loss community.




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jarjarbinx

10.05.2011, 02:35

@ silversurfer007

Latisse getting Media Attention

» right on Mr. Z. Even if most of us are desperate for a more effective
» solution, I agree with you that we have to proceed with caution and that
» having some unknown company overseas manufacture a solution is not the
» right answer and could be harmful. Better start using the solution as it is
» and wait to see what the Allergan people come up with in their clinical
» trials as a better concentration for the hair loss community.


Great Silver Surfer then why do you come here? What is the point to coming here if not to try to figure out ways to get things earlier? If you want to wait till drug companies comes out in the correct formulations for scalp hair loss then just stop coming to hair websites and instead just wait till a cure is announced in the news media like most other bald guys.

Most of us here are trying to figure out a quicker way. That is what we are doing here. We would not need to come here if we were content with just waiting for a cure to come to market by way of the regular channels. If we were willing to wait for a cure to come to market by way of the regular channels then we would not be wasting time here because we would be in a waiting pattern and we would just wait till news of a cure reaching the general marketplace reached the general public. But you come here so you are definitely seeking an earlier way out of your hair loss.

That aside, you are real quick to agree with that moron MR. Z and you say that he is right and you specifically said he is right because he recommends using a drug (in this case latisse) as it is already prescribed BUT THAT JUST SHOWS THAT YOU'RE AS MUCH OF AN @SS AS HIM BECAUSE HE DID NOT SAY TO USE IT AS IT IS PRESCRIBED FUUL. He said to do needling first and of course that would result in more of the active ingredient getting inside of the skin

You actually read his post of him talking about needling, and getting more of the active ingredient into the scalp skin, and as soon as you got done reading that post you stated the following, "Better start using the solution as it is" but he did not say to use the solution as it is. Rather, he said to augment it by way of needling. So your interpretation of what Dr. Z said is that we should use it as it is prescribed but Dr. Z did not say anything of the sort. Dr. Z said to use it far far different from how it has been used so far. Nobody has done needling with bimatoprost to date. The best idea is to increase the dose which is something that is already being done by allergan and Hideo Uno.


In a nutshell you have comprehension problems foo!.




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jarjarbinx

10.05.2011, 02:37

@ Z79

Latisse getting Media Attention

» » Has anyone tried this stuff? Is it worth a shot?
»
» used it for a couple of month and it did nothing. Guess I am one of the
» unlucky 30 % non responders.......


You did not use a strong enough dose. Hideo Uno used a stronger dose and Allergan is certainly using a stronger dose in its' human scalp hair studies. The dose of active ingredient in latisse is very low and so is the glaucomma solution also too low.




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Freddie555

10.05.2011, 02:57

@ jarjarbinx

Latisse getting Media Attention

There is of course danger. But some are here to experiment and experiment means stepping out on a ledge. We are already consuming tons of questionable food additives, colorants and chemicals manufactured overseas in the foods and shampoos.

Just like the first man in space, someone has to be the guinea pig. I'd volunteer myself if someone can mix up a batch of this stuff at higher concentrations at a resonably reputable lab.

I will of course exercise common sense and apply very little at a time to a small area until I know its safe.




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jarjarbinx

10.05.2011, 05:36

@ Freddie555

Latisse getting Media Attention

» There is of course danger. But some are here to experiment and experiment
» means stepping out on a ledge. We are already consuming tons of
» questionable food additives, colorants and chemicals manufactured overseas
» in the foods and shampoos.
»
» Just like the first man in space, someone has to be the guinea pig. I'd
» volunteer myself if someone can mix up a batch of this stuff at higher
» concentrations at a resonably reputable lab.
»
» I will of course exercise common sense and apply very little at a time to a
» small area until I know its safe.


Now this is an intelligent post because it adds something helpfull to the discussion. Great idea!!!! Use a 5% solution but just do a small spot like a real study. We do not need the entire head to be done to find out if this stufff works or not. We make a 5% solution usingg the same fillers and accipients that Hideo Uno used but we only apply the solution to the same small spot once or twice a day for 6 months and see what happens. Great idea!!!!

And even though you would be applying a stronger dose than Hideo Uno used you would actually be getting less of the medicine onto the body than Hideo Uno did because Hideo Uno applied a lower dose over much of the macaques scalp and we would be putting the higher dose over a much smaller area of the head so that means that no more of the medicine would go onto the head than in Uno's study but the medicine would go onto a smaller area than it did in Uno's study. Same amount of medicine on the head but it would cover a smaller area.

Perfect!!!!!

It's a lot better idea than needling the scalp and letting this stuff pour into the skin through a bunch of needling holes.




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Iron_Man

18.05.2011, 00:40

@ Khalil

Latisse getting Media Attention

» http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOu4XTuq1s
»
» http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/latisse-balding-cure_n_858575.html
»
»
» http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_MindBodyNews/latisse-eyelash-enhancer-thickens-thinning-hair/story?id=13536165

Latisse (Bimatoprost) is –unfortunately- "NOT as effective as Minoxidil on scalp hairs", even Latisse clearly HAS an influence on hair follicle evolvement/growth.

So, if Latisse isn’t as effective as Minoxidil (Rogaine,Kirkland etc) on AGA, as recently confirmed by Dr. Bauman who tested it on scalp hairs, and Minoxidil IS scientifically known as BS for most AGA affected patients – so what’s concerning Latisse the comparative of “BS”?




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Iron_Man

18.05.2011, 01:25

@ FloatTrip

Latisse getting Media Attention

» Here's the doc who claims 70% success rate with his patients for the
» generic version of Latisse:
»
» http://www.baumanmedical.com/

Interesting - now the same doc confirms that Latisse is "NOT as effective as Minoxidil on scalp hairs". Anyway, at least it was a hot nice hype - to lure patients into the clinic's office and to get some media attention.

» Latisse (Bimatoprost) is –unfortunately- "NOT as effective as
» Minoxidil on scalp hairs", even Latisse clearly HAS an influence on hair
» follicle evolvement/growth.
»
» So, if Latisse isn’t as effective as Minoxidil (Rogaine,Kirkland etc) on
» AGA, as recently confirmed by Dr. Bauman who tested it on scalp hairs, and
» Minoxidil IS
» scientifically known as BS for most AGA affected patients – so
» what’s concerning Latisse the comparative of “BS”?




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Freddie555

18.05.2011, 02:58

@ Iron_Man

Latisse getting Media Attention

increasing the concentration of lattice for use on the scalp might have a better effect than using a few drops at low concentration from a tiny bottle.

given what lattice does for eyelashes, I would not write it off.




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