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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 11:44
 

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ... (Hair Multiplication & Stem Cells Treatment)

The pics below are based on THIS photo – provided by the patient gc83uk (Gaz) ...
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/20/3198745//week1donor%20010.jpg

Quote gc83uk:
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"Yes I seen the vitro or whatever you call it, there was mainly 1 hairs and 2 hairs, I think a few 3 hairs, but hardly any. I've got fine thin hair. And the top of my scalp is bare, I'm like a monk lol. They say its scarred scalp because I've got scarring alopecia, but it doesn't actually look scarred, just very flat and shiny."

Source: http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-92698-page-0-category-17-order-last_answer.html
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[image]
[image]
Anyway, no idea what you (idiotic) guys can see, but for myself, I can clearly see lots of (shorter) 1 – 2 hairs sprouting out where the HST grafts were extracted - whereby you also very often still can see the already healing extraction/isolation wound with short hairs within it.

REMEMBER, the provided photos above show gc83uk’s donor area just 1 week after his HST procedure!!

... and these photos are completely coincident (for comparision) with the provided photos by the HST patient “kees” on haarweb.nl:

After 6 days (~1 week) …
http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4908&d=1276611114

After 13 days …
http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4909&d=1276611114

Without any doubts, in both cases, donor regeneration IS clearly happening!

Oh, and try to compare all the photos above with close-up photos of freshly treated traditional FUE patients just 1 week after the procedure!




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Stevie.Dee

19.10.2011, 08:55

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

Bla bla bla you favela third world country POS.

Insulting and attacking JB, very classy but i guess in a hispano country where hair equals appealing to women a bald ugly disfigured POS like you must be on the brink of suicide.

Your research website is ridicolous, your mannors are not existing and overall i would be glad if you silently die under a rock




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Spanish Dude

19.10.2011, 01:46

@ James Bond

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

We could discuss endlessly about your objectivity, realism, grasp of science, infinite intelligence, etc. but it would be useless.

regarding the clipped tips, is that something that you cannot post here?



» » AND HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE EMERGING HAIR FIBERS DON'T HAVE FINE TIPS,
» » BUT LOOK LIKE TRANSECTED TIPS? (this was noticed even by Gho-lover,
» James
» » Bond).
»
» I mentioned it because I review evidence in an objective manner (unlike
» yourself). I have a good grasp of the science, which is why I've always
» been much more realistic about Gho's procedures than you have and is why I
» am capable of making keen scientific observations like this.
»
» As for the transected tips, I asked Gho about this personally, and he
» provided me a satisfactory answer to the question. If you are curious about
» this, simply ask him.
»
» Seriously, you guys. This is getting really old. If you had made a dollar
» for every hour you have spent on this website debating whether the
» technique works or not, you could have easily paid for 10 procedures. The
» only useful action at this time is to perform an objective hair count study
» using a semi-permanent tattoo or scar in the donor. Otherwise, it's just
» more of the same old time-wasting BS that leads to nowhere.




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James Bond

18.10.2011, 22:59

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» AND HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE EMERGING HAIR FIBERS DON'T HAVE FINE TIPS,
» BUT LOOK LIKE TRANSECTED TIPS? (this was noticed even by Gho-lover, James
» Bond).

I mentioned it because I review evidence in an objective manner (unlike yourself). I have a good grasp of the science, which is why I've always been much more realistic about Gho's procedures than you have and is why I am capable of making keen scientific observations like this.

As for the transected tips, I asked Gho about this personally, and he provided me a satisfactory answer to the question. If you are curious about this, simply ask him.

Seriously, you guys. This is getting really old. If you had made a dollar for every hour you have spent on this website debating whether the technique works or not, you could have easily paid for 10 procedures. The only useful action at this time is to perform an objective hair count study using a semi-permanent tattoo or scar in the donor. Otherwise, it's just more of the same old time-wasting BS that leads to nowhere.




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Iron_Man

17.10.2011, 04:51

@ Spanish Dude

Spanish Dud's donor photos ...

» I am interested to see those 2-hair grafts, how they are growing?

And I'm interested to see your 5 - 8 donor hairs in your donor area, Spanish Dud.




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Spanish Dude

17.10.2011, 02:35

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

gaz, could you please post photos of the front of the recipient site?
I am interested to see those 2-hair grafts, how they are growing?

[image]




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Stevie.Dee

15.10.2011, 21:38

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

gc83uk would you be so kind to play santa clause and provide us with an update :-)




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needhairasap

29.09.2011, 06:35

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

I wish there was some way we could verify if during gaz's next visit they re harvest the same follicular unit




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Iron_Man

27.09.2011, 01:43

@ hairman2

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» ... what an annoying prick you are..
»
» hairman2

Is this an insult or just another useless constribution to this thread?

Oh, and there is no need to undersign your BS posts with "hairman2" - because it's immediatelly obvious that the idiot "hairman2" -who still has no clue how to use a correct punctation- posted the BS post - du Piefke Volltrottel ...




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hairman2

26.09.2011, 21:20

@ Iron_Man

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » I for one
» » like to hear the arguments of both sides.
»
» Na ja, das ist normal. Depperln wie du brauchen immer andere Meinungen -
» wobei diese ohnehin weder mit der einen noch der anderen was anfangen
» können - und schon gar nichts mit der eigenen.

Dr. Gho-reject,

kindly stfu... and if you have to insult people than at least have to balls to do it in English so the admins can see what an annoying prick you are..

hairman2




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Iron_Man

26.09.2011, 20:54

@ hairman2

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» I for one
» like to hear the arguments of both sides.

Na ja, das ist normal. Depperln wie du brauchen immer andere Meinungen - wobei diese ohnehin weder mit der einen noch der anderen was anfangen können - und schon gar nichts mit der eigenen.




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Stevie.Dee

26.09.2011, 18:27

@ hairman2

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

» » Dont destroy this useful thread with nonsense like this
»
» are you f*cking kidding me Stevie? Just look at what you posted to Spanish
» Dude... racist insults about his favela schooling and lack of
» intelligence.. and you are telling ME not to destroy this thread? i suggest
» that you take a look in the mirror once in a while.

Racism, as you may call it, doesnt stop at hair my friend. Hair loss affects everyone it doesnt matter where he is from. But i am impressed that you know what a Favela actually is.

And yes he lacks intelligence becaue he asked one question multiple times even when i answered to him in a way even a third grader would easily understand.

And i suggest YOU to do ...... nothing..... because i dont know you




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hairman2

26.09.2011, 16:42

@ Stevie.Dee

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

» Dont destroy this useful thread with nonsense like this

are you f*cking kidding me Stevie? Just look at what you posted to Spanish Dude... racist insults about his favela schooling and lack of intelligence.. and you are telling ME not to destroy this thread? i suggest that you take a look in the mirror once in a while.




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Stevie.Dee

26.09.2011, 16:10

@ hairman2

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

Dont destroy this useful thread with nonsense like this




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hairman2

26.09.2011, 15:38

@ celt

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

» So stevie ans Iron Man when are you getting your procedure with Gho?

remember, Iron Man was rejected...........

my guess is that he got into an argument with Gho which resulted in one of his usual tantrums and him resorting to vile language and insults... now he is barred from the procedure...




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celt

26.09.2011, 12:43

@ Stevie.Dee

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

So stevie ans Iron Man when are you getting your procedure with Gho?




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Stevie.Dee

26.09.2011, 10:49

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

I can tell you why i talk to Gho patients in private. Because they dont wanna be harassed by you and your conspiracy theories.

You are so stupid that you had to ask the question about iron deficy and nail growing more then three times.

What do they teach you in school in your favelas? Also what you absolutely fail to adres is, that every body is different, some people have immediately growth and others dont.

Some peoples hairs grow faster and others dont. As you can clearly see at this patients fotos, that even his hair grows different, some areas faster and some slower.

@hairman2 : Yes yes yadda yadda we all know you hate breed story till the max, you are a parasite who only wants to read but not contribute anything at all , there are to many of your kind around.


And her is the nut to crack, why should Gho prove that his HST works (he did this numerous times) WHY do they others not try o debunk his findings and his HST?

Yes now they will come with the same old ecuse " Gho has to proof bla bla yadda yadda"

Right no there is only one thing i reall hate, that evn SpanishDude and his dumbas* posse ill profit from Gho in the near future, to bad that you cannot exclude certain people from a full head of hair




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hairman2

26.09.2011, 10:03

@ Stevie.Dee

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» Whatever, its getting boring SpanishDude.
»
» Why dont you call HSI rather then annoy everyone with the same old crap

speak for yourself.. there is a large number of Gho skeptics. I for one like to hear the arguments of both sides.




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Iron_Man

26.09.2011, 04:45
(edited by Iron_Man, 26.09.2011, 05:06)

@ Spanish Dude

SD's life is bitter, miserable and depressed ...

» So, Yesterday, Iron_Man said that fine tips never existed.

Why do you always claim that someone said something what he actually didn't say?

Spanish Dud,
what do you think why nobody doubts what James Bond always said about Spanish Dud?
----------------------------------------
Page 01. JB says that SD is a loser.
JB says that SD's life is bitter, miserable and depressed.
JB says that SD posts false evidence

Page 04. JB says that SD is a con man.
JB says that SD is issuing lies and false allegations.
JB says that SD is misinforming and misleading people on Hairsite by posting lies and false allegations.
JB says that SD takes text out of context to harm people
JB says that SD is a loser who builds himself up by tearing others down
JB says that SD is the biggest con artist and liar Hairsite has ever witnessed
JB says that SD is an hypocrite, a con artist, and a liar, that is using propaganda to mislead people.
etc


Source: http://spanishdude.webs.com/JB_Attacks_index.htm
----------------------------------------

Answer:
Because it's absolutely true! :-D




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Spanish Dude

26.09.2011, 02:23

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

So, Yesterday, Iron_Man said that fine tips never existed.

After I demonstrated him that fine tips is how all hair start growing, in less than 24 hours, Iron_Man builds up a new theory that admits the existance of fine tips, but excluding Gho's procedure, of curse, which seems to be a weird exception in every regard.


» » a patient got hairs transplanted into his beard (to augment it).
» » first he shed the transplanted hairs. And then, hairs started to sprout.
» » Most of the new sprouting hairs have fine tips.
»
» What exactly forms fine tips and what exactly forms rather blunt tips?
»
» The keratinizing and hair faser shaping machine (hair matrix) within the
» follicle?
»
» Or creates it a fine tip just due to the existing hair shaft in the
» follicle canal while the new one forms already during the natural
» transition phase (telogen/early anagen) as like after a hair
» transplantation?
» [image]
» Such a natural scenario, as shown on the left side, doesn't exist after
» HST-WOUNDING ...
»
» ... and the new forming hair faser has -in this case- enough place to
» develop within the (regenerated) hair follicle canal, because another one
» doesn't exist (has been extracted).
»
» A completely different procedure (plucking vs. full extraction vs. partial
» extraction) = a completely different (regeneration) scenario.
»
» Or in simple words:
» If someone cuts off Spanish Dud ugly bald head and another guy just cuts
» off Spanish Dud's ear - a completely different regeneration scenario
» happens ...




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 22:03

@ Spanish Dude

Iron_Man and Stevie.Dee don't want to test Gho

» YOU DON'T WANT TO TEST GHO.
» WHY IS IT?

Because Spanish Dud says Gho's technique doesn't work - without testing it. :-D




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 20:38

@ Stevie.Dee

Iron_Man and Stevie.Dee don't want to test Gho

It is you and Iron_Man who do NOTHING to help testing Gho.

1. You did nothing to help gc83uk.
2. You did nothing to help scarro.
3. You did nothing to help scissorboy
4. You did nothing to help Hairsite with the 50-grafts trial.
5. Stevie.Dee contacts Gho-patients in secret so that Spenish Dude doesn't ask them questions.

In the meantime you acused me of not wanting to test? How funny.

YOU DON'T WANT TO TEST GHO.
WHY IS IT?



» I just wanted to say thank you for your informations overall, pleasekeep us
» informed. Nevertheless.
»
» I just wanted to point out something which is annoying bcause SpanishDude
» is a liar.
»
» I dont know if peolple know this petri dish picture, which SpanishDude
» posted. In this picture he mocked Gho and said " Its only FUE grafts" but
» now he says Gho is transecting follicles.
»
» So the conclusion is, SpanishDude i not interested in a solution or a news
» hair transplant standard, all he cares is getting paid by his Dr L or so




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Stevie.Dee

25.09.2011, 19:20

@ Iron_Man

gc83 thanks please read

I just wanted to say thank you for your informations overall, pleasekeep us informed. Nevertheless.

I just wanted to point out something which is annoying bcause SpanishDude is a liar.

I dont know if peolple know this petri dish picture, which SpanishDude posted. In this picture he mocked Gho and said " Its only FUE grafts" but now he says Gho is transecting follicles.

So the conclusion is, SpanishDude i not interested in a solution or a news hair transplant standard, all he cares is getting paid by his Dr L or so




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 11:36

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» a patient got hairs transplanted into his beard (to augment it).
» first he shed the transplanted hairs. And then, hairs started to sprout.
» Most of the new sprouting hairs have fine tips.

What exactly forms fine tips and what exactly forms rather blunt tips?

The keratinizing and hair faser shaping machine (hair matrix) within the follicle?

Or creates it a fine tip just due to the existing hair shaft in the follicle canal while the new one forms already during the natural transition phase (telogen/early anagen) as like after a hair transplantation?
[image]
Such a natural scenario, as shown on the left side, doesn't exist after HST-WOUNDING ...

... and the new forming hair faser has -in this case- enough place to develop within the (regenerated) hair follicle canal, because another one doesn't exist (has been extracted).

A completely different procedure (plucking vs. full extraction vs. partial extraction) = a completely different (regeneration) scenario.

Or in simple words:
If someone cuts off Spanish Dud ugly bald head and another guy just cuts off Spanish Dud's ear - a completely different regeneration scenario happens ...




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Stevie.Dee

25.09.2011, 05:21

@ Spanish Dude

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

Whatever, its getting boring SpanishDude.

Why dont you call HSI rather then annoy everyone with the same old crap




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 04:26

@ Iron_Man

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

Well, YOU said several times, that Cooley's /Hitzig's autocloning (or autoplucking) technique was a rip-off of Gho's HST. And you said that HST and autocloning are essentially the same.

So, if Cooley says that plucked hairs take 6-7 months to regrow (donor regrow), this means the same for Gho's HST donor regeneration. Not 1 week!

You lose (again)!

p.d. normal plucking takes 3 months to regrow (donor).
Cooley's plucking takes 6-7 months.

» » Ironed_Man, a plucked follicle normally rests for 3 months!!
»
» Right, a normal plucked hair, yes. It can taken even much longer than 3
» month. e.g. Dr. Cooley reported even 6 - 7 month. That's practically normal
» for NORMAL plucked hairs. Right.
»
» Anyway, where are your photos with the "fine tips"??
»
» I'm still waiting ...




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 04:20

@ Iron_Man

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

No, Ironed_Man, this is not horizontal transection (in a controlled point in the middle of the follicle). This is an "oblique transection" by error.

And yes, this is splitting because the result is the same: FUs are partially extracted: some follicles of the FU remain in the donor site.

don't worry, little by little we will specify perfectly what is he doing.

» So, let me summerize:
»
» Recently, Spanish Dud and Dr. Umar claim that Dr. Gho is “splitting”
» (verticaly) hairs, meaning, Gho splits in vivo (inside the patients body)
» vertically a 2-hair or 3-hair graft and just extracts 1 or 2 hairs
» to make “fakery hair multiplication”.
»
» Now, all of the sudden, Spanish Dud claims that Dr. Gho “transects”
» follicular units horizontally/transversely and tries to explain a
» Gho patient with a graphic what Gho is doing ...
» [image]
»
» But what Spanish Dud still doesn’t know is, that Dr. Gho is able to do BOTH
» since a long time, as desribed and explained in Gho’s study ...




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 04:11

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » so, as you see, hairs have fine tips.
»
» No, I can't see that. And show me some photos where you can see the new
» hair sprouting out with fine tips in the RECIPIENT area of HT patients.
» Thanks.

for example, in this "Beard Board":
http://jefffsbeardboard.yuku.com/topic/877/My-experience-with-beard-hair-transplants?page=2

a patient got hairs transplanted into his beard (to augment it).
first he shed the transplanted hairs. And then, hairs started to sprout.
Most of the new sprouting hairs have fine tips.


[image]




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 02:55

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» so, as you see, hairs have fine tips.

No, I can't see that. And show me some photos where you can see the new hair sprouting out with fine tips in the RECIPIENT area of HT patients. Thanks.




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 02:35

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » here is a part of my hand's outer edge:
»
» Cool, and now make a photo of your donor area ... :-D

nope.

so, as you see, hairs have fine tips.
In your case, tips are broken, maybe the rubbing against your clothes, I don't know.




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 02:08

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» here is a part of my hand's outer edge:

Cool, and now make a photo of your donor area ... :-D




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 01:55
(edited by Iron_Man, 25.09.2011, 02:24)

@ Iron_Man

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

So, let me summerize:

Recently, Spanish Dud and Dr. Umar claim that Dr. Gho is “splitting” (verticaly) hairs, meaning, Gho splits in vivo (inside the patients body) vertically a 2-hair or 3-hair graft and just extracts 1 or 2 hairs to make “fakery hair multiplication”.

Now, all of the sudden, Spanish Dud claims that Dr. Gho “transects” follicular units horizontally/transversely and tries to explain a Gho patient with a graphic what Gho is doing ...
[image]

But what Spanish Dud still doesn’t know is, that Dr. Gho is able to do BOTH since a long time, as desribed and explained in Gho’s study ...

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

[image]

[image]
For Dr. Gho, it actually doesn’t matter whether or not some FU’s are horizontally transected or not – Gho is able to regenerate EVERY follicle part!

Btw – why is Spanish Dud asking “experts” what they can see in Gho’s petri dish??

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-88964-page-1-category-2-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html

[image]

Sorry, but I can’t see any missing or transected hair bulbs - neither on this photo nor in any Gho’s patient videos – what an psychiatric loser ...

I wonder what comes next - "Gho buys the hairs for the recipient side in the supermarket (or dead-house)!"




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 01:38

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

strange. You have many clipped hairs. I think they are broken tips. Maybe you do some kind of regular exercise, and your arm is rubbed against something.

My arm hairs are fine tipped. All of them.
But even you have some.
The small hair at the center is fine-tipped:
[image]


here is a part of my hand's outer edge:

[image]

» » All the hairs in my body except my beard hairs and my scalp hairs,
» (which
» » are shaved or cut) have fine tips. The hairs in my
» arms
, my eyebrows, my
» » eyelashes, etc, all have fine tips.
» » All body hairs have fine tips, ...
»
» hmmm, maybe you're a fine idiot?
»
» Is here someone who can see hairs with "fine tips" on IronMan's arm hairs
» ...
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-75784-page-0-category-7-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html
»
» ... in the VIDEO I provided month ago?
»
» And NO, I do NOT shave my arm hairs regularly! :-D




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 00:44

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» All the hairs in my body except my beard hairs and my scalp hairs, (which
» are shaved or cut) have fine tips. The hairs in my arms, my eyebrows, my
» eyelashes, etc, all have fine tips.
» All body hairs have fine tips, ...

hmmm, maybe you're a fine idiot?

Is here someone who can see hairs with "fine tips" on IronMan's arm hairs ...

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-75784-page-0-category-7-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html

... in the VIDEO I provided month ago?

And NO, I do NOT shave my arm hairs regularly! :-D




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 00:12

@ Spanish Dude

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» Ironed_Man, a plucked follicle normally rests for 3 months!!

Right, a normal plucked hair, yes. It can taken even much longer than 3 month. e.g. Dr. Cooley reported even 6 - 7 month. That's practically normal for NORMAL plucked hairs. Right.

Anyway, where are your photos with the "fine tips"??

I'm still waiting ...




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 00:10

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » 1. plucked hairs regrow with fine tips.
» » 2. new cicling hairs grow with fine tips.
»
» Interesting - show me photos ... :-D

plucked hairs regrow with fine tips. That is one of the reasons why women prefer plucking instead of shaving. Because they emerge later, and the tip is fine, not thick.

All the hairs in my body except my beard hairs and my scalp hairs, (which are shaved or cut) have fine tips. The hairs in my arms, my eyebrows, my eyelashes, etc, all have fine tips.
All body hairs have fine tips, except those that have been cut or shaven.




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Spanish Dude

25.09.2011, 00:01

@ Iron_Man

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

Ironed_Man, a plucked follicle normally rests for 3 months!!
In Gho's procedure, it is much more than a simple plucking. Half of the follicle is removed.

Now you are inventing yourself a new theory, that in only 4 days:
-The DP is regenerated immediately
-Vascularization is regenerated immediately
-And the fiber starts being produced full gas, with no transition, and with blunt tip?
-And 4.5 mm length of hairfiber is created in 4 days?

Okay, that is your theory.
but my theory is much more simple.

Then according to Stevie Dee and the Ockam's razor, I win.
And that is why Gho cannot do 10k grafts.


» » Note that the hair bulb lies at aprox. 4.5mm deep below skin surface.
» » So, assuming that after transplantation [extraction - you
» idiot], the bulb was immediately

» » regenerated, and immediately
» started to grow a hair fiber
, (these two
» » things would already be a huge assumption [- no Spanish Dud, fifty years
» of basic hair research support this normal observation]), we would have to
» wait for the
» » hair fiber to grow upwards 4.5 mm, before it emerges above skin surface.
» » This would take exactly 2 weeks!
» » Google a bit. You will find that it takes 2
» weeks for the hair shaft to
» » grow 4.5 mm!!
» » So, the hairshaft should appear above skin surface, at 2 weeks the
» » soonest.
»
» Ok. I did it. But I didn't use Google ... I used my hard drive ... and
» finally my well working brain ...
» -----------------
» Hair growth varies depending on body region. For example, average
» eyelash/brow growth rates have been reported at 0.16 millimeters (mm) per
» day, scalp hair at 0.34 to 0.36 mm/day, and beard hair at 0.38 mm/day.
» Growth rates also are affected by age, gender, hair color, and ethnicity.
» For example, scalp hair in a prepubescent, adolescent, adult, and older
» adult have been reported at 0.41, 0.30, 0.34, and 0.32 mm/day,
» respectively.
»
» Interindividual variability also occurs. Scalp hair grows at an
» average rate of 1 centimeter (cm) per month, but can range from 0.6 to
» 3.36 cm/month. Thus, 12 cm can represent 3½ to 20 months of hair
» growth.
» -----------------
»
» btw - with the CORRECT HST technique, the normal hair growth and hair growh
» lengh has actually nothing to do with a fast regeneration of the hair
» fasers. There is an other reason (faster cell proliferation and
» keratinization as normal) involved also during the first few days/weeks
» after extraction. The latter is also nothing new.




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Iron_Man

25.09.2011, 00:00

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» 1. plucked hairs regrow with fine tips.
» 2. new cicling hairs grow with fine tips.

Interesting - show me photos ... :-D




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Spanish Dude

24.09.2011, 23:48

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » I cannot see fine tips on the regrown
» » hairs, ...
»
» Who says there should be "fine tips" on regrown hairs - and finally, WHY?

1. plucked hairs regrow with fine tips.
2. new cicling hairs grow with fine tips.
3. shaved hairs have blunt, clipped hairs.

so, it seems Gho's are of type 3.
Now tell me that this is a special kind of regrowth, that the DP rebuilds in a few hours and starts producing hair fiber without any transition. blahblahblah.




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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 23:25

@ Spanish Dude

SPANISH DUD IS A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» Note that the hair bulb lies at aprox. 4.5mm deep below skin surface.
» So, assuming that after transplantation [extraction - you idiot], the bulb was immediately
» regenerated, and immediately started to grow a hair fiber, (these two
» things would already be a huge assumption [- no Spanish Dud, fifty years of basic hair research support this normal observation]), we would have to wait for the
» hair fiber to grow upwards 4.5 mm, before it emerges above skin surface.
» This would take exactly 2 weeks!
» Google a bit. You will find that it takes 2 weeks for the hair shaft to
» grow 4.5 mm!!
» So, the hairshaft should appear above skin surface, at 2 weeks the
» soonest.

Ok. I did it. But I didn't use Google ... I used my hard drive ... and finally my well working brain ...
-----------------
Hair growth varies depending on body region. For example, average eyelash/brow growth rates have been reported at 0.16 millimeters (mm) per day, scalp hair at 0.34 to 0.36 mm/day, and beard hair at 0.38 mm/day. Growth rates also are affected by age, gender, hair color, and ethnicity. For example, scalp hair in a prepubescent, adolescent, adult, and older adult have been reported at 0.41, 0.30, 0.34, and 0.32 mm/day, respectively.

Interindividual variability also occurs. Scalp hair grows at an average rate of 1 centimeter (cm) per month, but can range from 0.6 to 3.36 cm/month. Thus, 12 cm can represent 3½ to 20 months of hair growth.
-----------------

btw - with the CORRECT HST technique, the normal hair growth and hair growh lengh has actually nothing to do with a fast regeneration of the hair fasers. There is an other reason (faster cell proliferation and keratinization as normal) involved also during the first few days/weeks after extraction. The latter is also nothing new.




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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 22:50

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» I cannot see fine tips on the regrown
» hairs, ...

Who says there should be "fine tips" on regrown hairs - and finally, WHY?




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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 22:44

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » » Here you have a image you posted before:
» »
» » Interesting - how do you know that this "image" I posted is a photo from
» a
» » 2010 published paper by Dr. Francisco Jimenez? I find that highly
» suspect
» » ...
»
» Because I belong to the Francisco Jiménez-Dr. Lorenzo gang. And we are
» conspiring against Gho to steal his secret technique.

I know. That's the reason why I said you losers should pay Gho EUR 50,000 each ...




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Spanish Dude

24.09.2011, 22:35

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» » Here you have a image you posted before:
»
» Interesting - how do you know that this "image" I posted is a photo from a
» 2010 published paper by Dr. Francisco Jimenez? I find that highly suspect
» ...

Because I belong to the Francisco Jiménez-Dr. Lorenzo gang. And we are conspiring against Gho to steal his secret technique.

»
» Anyway, pay Dr. Gho EUR 50,000 and you'll get some answers for your
» incompetent questions - answers for questions, who are answered already
» since more than 50 years ...
»
» btw - really funny: first you couldn't see any hairs regrown at all and now
» you can even see fine tips on top of the hairs??? LOL ... what a
» psychiatric idiot ...

yes, from the beginning I could see the "regrown hairs", (and I told gc83uk about them), but I wanted you to point me to these *long* regrown hairs, so that I could build my "theory" upon your post.

oh, by the way, just to clarify you: I cannot see fine tips on the regrown hairs, because they clearly look clipped, and they always look clipped in all the photos posted by Gho, showing donor regeneration.
For example, this one (1 week post op):
[image]




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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 22:15

@ Spanish Dude

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

» Here you have a image you posted before:

Interesting - how do you know that this "image" I posted is a photo from a 2010 published paper by Dr. Francisco Jimenez? I find that highly suspect ...

Anyway, pay Dr. Gho EUR 50,000 and you'll get some answers for your incompetent questions - answers for questions, who are answered already since more than 50 years ...

btw - really funny: first you couldn't see any hairs regrown at all and now you can even see (or not) fine tips on top of the hairs??? LOL ... what a psychiatric idiot ...




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Stevie.Dee

24.09.2011, 21:40

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

In the second picture btw you can see a three hair follicle wher two hairs have sprouted and the third one is a black knub. Would be nice if you could aroow it Iron Man thank you. I would do it but i somehow dont wanna put anymore effort into getting SpanishDude on the right track.

Gaz i really really hope you can provid us with more fotos over time also from your recipient area, because i simply wanna have those useles Gho bashers silenced, so that they will put their anger into demanding HST or HSI from their other surgeons




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Spanish Dude

24.09.2011, 21:37
(edited by Spanish Dude, 24.09.2011, 21:56)

@ Iron_Man

Not regeneration, but transection?? IS GHO A FRAÜD?? IT SEEMS SO!!

Thanks Ironed_Man.

As you see, this picture is only 1 week post op, and most of the so-called "regenerated hairs" happen to be already quite long.
This means that these hairs emerged above skin surface even BEFORE 1 week.

Now lets do a bit of mathematics! I know that its difficult for you, but lets try!!
Tell me how it is possible that these "regenerated hairs" appear above skin surface in less than 1 week?... for example, in 4 days??

Note that the hair bulb lies at aprox. 4.5mm deep below skin surface.
So, assuming that after transplantation, the bulb was immediately regenerated, and immediately started to grow a hair fiber, (these two things would already be a huge assumption), we would have to wait for the hair fiber to grow upwards 4.5 mm, before it emerges above skin surface. This would take exactly 2 weeks!
Google a bit. You will find that it takes 2 weeks for the hair shaft to grow 4.5 mm!!
So, the hairshaft should appear above skin surface, at 2 weeks the soonest.

Here you have a image you posted before:

[image]

So the conclusion seems clear:
why the hair shaft emerges at only 1 week? or before?
Very simple, because the hair shaft was TRANSECTED at midpoint, or above, by the punch. In this case, the bulb is intact, and keeps producing a hair fiber, and it takes less than a week to see the fiber again emerging above skin surface.

AND HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE EMERGING HAIR FIBERS DON'T HAVE FINE TIPS, BUT LOOK LIKE TRANSECTED TIPS? (this was noticed even by Gho-lover, James Bond).


Just a theory, but seems to fit the facts like a glove.
Thank you for the applause!
SD



» The pics below are based on THIS photo – provided by the patient gc83uk
» (Gaz) ...
» http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/20/3198745//week1donor%20010.jpg
»
» Quote gc83uk:
» ------------------------
» "Yes I seen the vitro or whatever you call it, there was
» mainly 1 hairs and 2 hairs, I think a few 3 hairs, but hardly
» any
. I've got fine thin hair. And the top of my scalp is bare,
» I'm like a monk lol. They say its scarred scalp because I've got scarring
» alopecia, but it doesn't actually look scarred, just very flat and shiny."
»
» Source:
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-92698-page-0-category-17-order-last_answer.html
»
» ------------------------
» [image]
» [image]
» Anyway, no idea what you (idiotic) guys can see, but for myself, I can
» clearly see lots of (shorter) 1 – 2 hairs sprouting out where the HST
» grafts were extracted - whereby you also very often still can see the
» already healing extraction/isolation wound with short hairs within it.
»
» REMEMBER, the provided photos above show gc83uk’s donor area
» just 1 week after his HST procedure!!
»
» ... and these photos are completely coincident (for comparision) with the
» provided photos by the HST patient “kees” on haarweb.nl:
»
» After 6 days (~1 week) …
» http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4908&d=1276611114
»
» After 13 days …
» http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4909&d=1276611114
»
» Without any doubts, in both cases, donor regeneration IS clearly
» happening!
»
» Oh, and try to compare all the photos above with close-up photos of freshly
» treated traditional FUE patients just 1 week after the procedure!




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Iron_Man

24.09.2011, 20:50

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

» [image]
» [image]
» Anyway, no idea what you (idiotic) guys can see, but for myself, I can
» clearly see lots of (shorter) 1 – 2 hairs sprouting out where the HST
» grafts were extracted - whereby you also very often still can see the
» already healing extraction/isolation wound with short hairs within it.

Thanks Gaz,
for the excellent NEW photos you provided today!

Photo 1 – after 12 days ...
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/20/3198745//day12%20004.JPG

Photo 2 – after 12 days ...
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/20/3198745//day12%20005.JPG

Anyway, now its even more obvious:
In about 9 – 12 month, you can –and without any doubts- you can harvest without any problems HST grafts again FROM THE SAME AREA!

Edit:
Concerning the density between the untreated area (very LONG hairs) and treated area (somewhat longer (just shaved) thicker hairs vs. shorter and somewhat finer regenerating hairs) - there is definitely NO DIFFERENCE!
Or in simple words - there's definitely no density loss!




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Stevie.Dee

24.09.2011, 12:03

@ Iron_Man

"Injection Patient" gc83uk (Gaz) - donor photos ...

Everyone can see the sprouting hairs, even if you are absolutly blind, why do you think its so quiet here? Its not because Gho Supporters won the battle, no its because

Two cases, one HSI case patient with donor regneration and one dutch guy who is NW6 got a NW 1 to NW2 hair line done by Gho.

This is too much for the average " I wanna have some FUT" baldie because now their brain begins to work.

You got two proofs on one ocassion

1) Donor regneration even with HSI (not only HST)
2) Faster healing times
3) clearly visible sprouting hairs from OBVIOUS healing spots
4) no dmage or empty holes in the pattern of follicle arrangement

Thats after ONE week But i admit, those hairs sprout because of the damage here, the body regenereation is working hard to compensate this, thats why those hairs sprout after one week without FUE Trauma or FUT Trauma

5) you get a full blown Nw6 guy who got HST (where people often like to tell stories about Gho rejects)
6) This guy has followup operations planned and Gho publishd this long befoe he could even knew what will grow and what not




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