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Jacob

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27.07.2013, 03:40

@ tinytim

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Originally Posted by tinytim

hi jacob i still have some spectral 5%minox it does make my scalp itchy but so does smed i have posted to you jacob at hairsite and synth.


Hey tim..sorry I missed this. I was too busy having fun with the love birds, I guess :-D

This is hairsite. Or am I missing something :lookaround:

But have you tried any of the other and/or new combos they've come out with? Or from Polaris, which is from the same company actually.

And can you guess who said this? "It's simply because I want to make money off of this regimen." No need to answer..I'm just having fun..and yet still so :surprised: how obvious..and pathetic..and idiotic..and asinine..it is.




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tinytim

27.07.2013, 10:44

@ Jacob

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The things many of us do not like about minoxidil or rogaine is its greasy nature due to prop glycol and many makes of minox like polaris which as we know is part of divine skin company is removing the glycol,i think i read someware that the prop glycol helps the minox stay on the scalp or to stop drying of the scalp is that right or wrong.
But the ingredience of polaris n7 is good and they do offer higher strengths although they are harder to get hold of.
Now jacob what is you regrime and have you or did you try minoxidil or propecia? and i made a mistake i ment hairlossfight site sorry which i have asked you about that new product from symrise called force 1631 i read the download link and it seems interesting.




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tinytim

27.07.2013, 12:16

@ tinytim

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Hi kevin i really want to know looking at pictures again day one pretty bald then day thirty not much happening at this stage what made you think that the treatment was worth carrying on with because many of us out here get bored when we get to the day 30.
But then at day 60 you can clearly see regrowth and then onto 120 days i would and many out there would be happy with.
So the question again is the motivation with many of us in a depressed state at day one to carry on as we have been sc*med many times in the past ant i really want to think that its going to work.
:hungry:




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Jacob

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27.07.2013, 16:26

@ tinytim

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I'll post my regimen over there maybe this weekend..and update it in my sig here. Don't forget Polaris/DS uses liposome tech, so that is what should keep it in your scalp- time release even.

I'm just :no: over your "can clearly see regrowth" etc. Feel free to circle the areas that have the actual regrowth. Even you..the optimistic of optimists..have to be scratching your head as to why he didn't just provide a new video of of the top of his head..why his buddy is here at the same time pretty much parroting what Kevin says..and I cannot believe you can't smell the stench of stupidity of him trying to make money off of this.

And don't forget..you now need to use a LLLT device as well. Don't purchase one until you know which one is doing wonders for him. :ok:




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tinytim

27.07.2013, 17:23

@ Jacob

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hi jacob i myself have a hairmax that i got cheap on ebay its the rechargable lux version and i find it does give a bit of body to the hair, by the way theres also lipogaine minox which it it has az acid in makes it a bit greasy.




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tinytim

27.07.2013, 18:27

@ Jacob

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To be fair to the scalpmed and the natural orals its only just 4 weeks and i can see a slight improvement a little regrowth of tiny white hairs and some black hairs that i lost a few years ago on bald temple but there is only about 4 of them so to fill that whole areas in would be a miracle.
But jacob i have another 3 months of smed and im determined to use it all up just to see if it works on me.:no:
I do think that the before lotion which is natural maybe a form of liposome for the minoxidil when you spray it on.
I will change the topic again to ask do you remember applypoly im not sure if the company is still running but it was many years ago when it came out and we know capillogain has some in and as you say ds products.




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Kevng8322

27.07.2013, 19:06

@ FollicleSherlock

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Originally Posted by FollicleSherlock

Obviously a good transplant wouldn't match up to claims of that thread, please remove it, and it's nonsense is beneath this type of forum, let him go post it on one of those sites that sell those kinds of things please, not here of all places.


FollicleSherlock - I was so caught up in the ridiculous claim of "he just simply grew his hair out" and forgot to respond to the original post of this thread. Let me get something straight. So do you think that those pictures aren't mine? the videos aren't real? . I just want to know more about your opinion.

You're right about one thing, even hair surgery would not guarantee the result that I have. And also you're right about another thing, by doing these videos, I'm simply promoting all these products without getting anything positive from it. The future videos will not mention any other products that I have added or change to this regimen.




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Kevng8322

27.07.2013, 19:12

@ tinytim

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Originally Posted by tinytim

To be fair to the scalpmed and the natural orals its only just 4 weeks and i can see a slight improvement a little regrowth of tiny white hairs and some black hairs that i lost a few years ago on bald temple but there is only about 4 of them so to fill that whole areas in would be a miracle.
But jacob i have another 3 months of smed and im determined to use it all up just to see if it works on me.:no:
I do think that the before lotion which is natural maybe a form of liposome for the minoxidil when you spray it on.
I will change the topic again to ask do you remember applypoly im not sure if the company is still running but it was many years ago when it came out and we know capillogain has some in and as you say ds products.


Tim - it's great to know that you're seeing improvement. Yup, the first 30 days, you dont really see much happening. Depends on the individual, it might take more than 60 days to actually see improvements. That's why I recommend trying it out for at least 4-5 months and if you still dont see progress then simply stop using it.

Good luck buddy!




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
28.07.2013, 01:38

@ Kevng8322

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Originally Posted by FollicleSherlock

Obviously a good transplant wouldn't match up to claims of that thread, please remove it, and it's nonsense is beneath this type of forum, let him go post it on one of those sites that sell those kinds of things please, not here of all places.

Originally Posted by Kevng8322


FollicleSherlock - I was so caught up in the ridiculous claim of "he just simply grew his hair out" and forgot to respond to the original post of this thread. Let me get something straight. So do you think that those pictures aren't mine? the videos aren't real? . I just want to know more about your opinion.

You're right about one thing, even hair surgery would not guarantee the result that I have. And also you're right about another thing, by doing these videos, I'm simply promoting all these products without getting anything positive from it. The future videos will not mention any other products that I have added or change to this regimen.


It is funny he made that comment that "a good transplant wouldn't match up to the claims" you made... THAT'S the whole point, it's better than a hair transplant; that's precisely why people are impressed. I can't understand the knee-jerk doubters and haters on this.

Personally I totally believe your story, I just dont understand why you're asking for money. Can't a person just provide help and videos to others on the net anymore without seeking money? If this were me I woudn't even think of the money pitch.




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 01:58

@ roger_that

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"It is funny he made that comment that "a good transplant wouldn't match up to the claims" you made... THAT'S the whole point, it's better than a hair transplant; that's precisely why people are impressed. I can't understand the knee-jerk doubters and haters on this.

Personally I totally believe your story, I just dont understand why you're asking for money. Can't a person just provide help and videos to others on the net anymore without seeking money? If this were me I woudn't even think of the money pitch. "

While I'm not the one who made the comment about "a good transplant..."....it is not better than a hair transplant. I don't think too many are impressed anymore after actually looking at the video, and the fact that he will not provide an overhead video to show the actual "results". There's nothing "knee-jerk" about it- see my previous responses to you. Actually the only knee-jerk reactions around here are those just buying into it.

The asking for money is just another obvious reason not to believe the guy.




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 02:08

@ tinytim

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But you don't understand. You will need to use the one he uses. ;-)

Tim- Feel free to circle the areas that have the actual regrowth. Even you..the optimistic of optimists..have to be scratching your head as to why he didn't just provide a new video of of the top of his head..why his buddy is here at the same time pretty much parroting what Kevin says..and I cannot believe you can't smell the stench of stupidity of him trying to make money off of this.

Thought I'd repost that in case you missed it. Nah..I'm not actually expecting a response...the answers are obvious. Including why he didn't go out of his way to prove to all of us that he has the results he's claiming. On day 1.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
28.07.2013, 02:23

@ Jacob

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While I'm not the one who made the comment about "a good transplant..."....it is not better than a hair transplant.


So let me get this straight. The pictures are worse than a hair transplant, but also too good to be real.... OK.....:yes:




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 02:35
(edited by Jacob, 28.07.2013, 02:59)

@ roger_that

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While I'm not the one who made the comment about "a good transplant..."....it is not better than a hair transplant.

Originally Posted by roger_that


So let me get this straight. The pictures are worse than a hair transplant, but also too good to be real.... OK.....:yes:


Actually, no. See my other posts on this. You can clearly see he's majorly thinned out yet. Why else do you think he does a nice long Youtube vid but only glimpses of the top of his head in it? And then won't provide one when asked.

Then go back and look at his "befores". He was never totally bald in those areas, as others have pointed out.




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 03:37

@ Jacob

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BTW..this is one of those I was referring to: http://www.spectraldncs.com/spectral-dnc-s.html

Especially for those wanting to stay away from minox.




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Kevng8322

28.07.2013, 04:06

@ roger_that

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Originally Posted by FollicleSherlock

Obviously a good transplant wouldn't match up to claims of that thread, please remove it, and it's nonsense is beneath this type of forum, let him go post it on one of those sites that sell those kinds of things please, not here of all places.

Originally Posted by Kevng8322


FollicleSherlock - I was so caught up in the ridiculous claim of "he just simply grew his hair out" and forgot to respond to the original post of this thread. Let me get something straight. So do you think that those pictures aren't mine? the videos aren't real? . I just want to know more about your opinion.

You're right about one thing, even hair surgery would not guarantee the result that I have. And also you're right about another thing, by doing these videos, I'm simply promoting all these products without getting anything positive from it. The future videos will not mention any other products that I have added or change to this regimen.

Originally Posted by roger_that


It is funny he made that comment that "a good transplant wouldn't match up to the claims" you made... THAT'S the whole point, it's better than a hair transplant; that's precisely why people are impressed. I can't understand the knee-jerk doubters and haters on this.

Personally I totally believe your story, I just dont understand why you're asking for money. Can't a person just provide help and videos to others on the net anymore without seeking money? If this were me I woudn't even think of the money pitch.


Roger_that, the reason for me creating this donation page is because I want financial support from people that benefits from this hair project of mine.
I figure if it miraculously works for people that have been searching for a solution for so long and finally found it through this project of mine, they wouldn't mind supporting me. My project does not end at just simply getting 30-35% of my hair back, I'm seeking for a solution that will get 50% of my hair back. And to be honest with you, I'm getting really close right now with a couple of new products i added to this regimen. You'll see it in updated videos that I will post. I will not be discussing about what ingredients or products though as I learn from my past mistakes. This project is getting very expensive, I don't know of If I can maintain doing this without support.

Time will tell, more people will come forward when they tried the regimen I posted in the first video.




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 04:27

@ Kevng8322

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Just when you need a vomiting smiley....

Again..your excuse for asking for money is PATHETIC. There are ppl, again..who DONATE their time, money, and products. Even if you had 20 ppl that were posting results..actual results..it is no reason to be asking for money.

New products..new LLLT device...and he's not going to tell us what they will be. Of course unless ppl beg- that'll be an excuse. Or just contact him privately *wink wink* Oh wait..he said he won't be "discussing" them. So that means he probably will tell us all about them..in the video.

The hair he had in the "before" was 30-35%. Not surprising he's going all out now. So much for "better than a hair transplant...".




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sonnyL

28.07.2013, 11:01
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@ sonnyL

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I still can't believe how someone would think that Kevin's result is just from letting his hair grow out. I mean just think about it...in his second video he shows a clip of him on vacation with his family completely bald on top with just the horse shoe pattern left. Why would he walk around like that if he can just simply grow his hair out???!!! Look at the pictures on his facebook attending weddings and parties...why would he go around looking like bozo the clown (:lol2: sorry Kevin, just had to make my point), when he can just grow his hair out??!! The reason why he walked around bald was because he was bald...either that or maybe his daughter got a hold of the scissors while he was sleeping? :hungry:

It's just ridiculous. Hmmm..."Lamas Scalp Serum" doesn't cause brain fog and lost of vision does it? :surprised:

If only there's a smiley with a Dunce cap.




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tinytim

28.07.2013, 12:07

@ sonnyL

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Hi guys me personnelly will not post any pics as im the one who needs help and also you tend to get the response and doubters on nearly all forums and one i do not need to prove anything as many know me to be honest and what i will report will be true as im a norwood 4 and badly receaded at front and crown massive bald area as said im getting comments of being a monk.
So if i after 3 or 4 months do get total regrowth on my scalp i will report that as said i do have some very tiny white hairs which you can only see at certain angles in the mirror and under certain light and also as said about 3 dark hairs on left side of receaded area which is not much to me.
I will not be offering any monies to kevin as i beleave in helping all at every forum in this disease as it causes so much destress and i should know at age 55 so it would be a miracle if this worked for me.
In uk hair loss is still in the dark ages in the sence its not available on health service or nhs i know hair transplants would be too expensive and i know certain wigs are available free for mainly woman which is good,but the drugs are not and as said many drs do not take it as a disease which i think it is to us who when young were devistated and many have ruined lives because of it.
So as said i will be totally honest with my reports on this regrime i must say i have added my own scalpure made with benonite clay apple cider vinagar and added tea tree oil as in omg you tube video he tells you how to mack it and i am using it about twice to three times a week and as you know im not on finasteride for over two weeks im back with avodart but thats due to my waterworks problems at my age.




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tinytim

28.07.2013, 12:12

@ Jacob

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jacob did you check out the link at bald truth i posted which you asked for on sucralfate trials i also heard there have been other trials with this product on alopecia for cancer sufferers and for male pattern loss.:ok:




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tinytim

28.07.2013, 12:38

@ tinytim

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I have forgot to add please anyone do not turn this topic into a bitter feud between beleavers and non beleavers if you do not beleave keven due to his asking for money on facebook fair enough but i have nothing against kevin and if this these products im using and spent monies on do nothing for me then i will hold nothing against anyone only myself to blame as in anything and we are all free to give honest review of a product or products as long as we are not beholding to any company which as many know is hard on the internet and i should know morte than many with the amount of money i have spent over the years from when i was 21.
One product i would like to mention is kevis i tried this way back in the early 90s as it was not american owned and hyped product and was much cheaped that now and it was said they tested it all over europe of course at the time still being young i thought it was the answer to my prayers thats what these companies make you think and yes i used it for the recommened period 6 months and my hair loss got even worse.
Nonthing has changed because we had neogenic and aminexil from L O and vichy and so expensive more than plain minoxidil and even what im using i will say is not too over priced as if i lived in us i see you can get two months for $29 i think but because of post and having to find another suppler its a wee bit pricey but even then if it does work i would be willing to put up with that due to wasting money on other so called treatments.
Now some will say at my age im lucky to have the hair i have left but you never forget the way you once comed your hair and styled it as it only seems like yesterday when the hairloss started and with mpb it creeps up on you slowly so you think i have a very slight hairloss on front and crown but think i will start on 2% minoxidil which was only available in uk in the late 80s and it did regrow and keep my hair and the same when i went onto the 5% and then the latter with an antiandrogen added and got great regrowth where i could style my hair quite well then i got complacent after a few years and got bored with applying this twice a day so did not notice much after stopping the minox not until i looked in the mirror and visited a uk trichologist who said you may need a transplant on the crown and if not go onto minoxidil which i know i had stopped using.
One thing i regret is not staying on the minox at that time as i may have more hair than i have now but im not sure.
There is a lot more i could add but its too much for me to say here and as said im not keen on using the drugs vs natural i must say its only the drugs that ever did anything for me.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
28.07.2013, 12:47
(edited by roger_that, 28.07.2013, 13:21)

@ Jacob

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Then go back and look at his "befores". He was never totally bald in those areas, as others have pointed out.


So what?! Are you saying he had to be TOTALLY bald for the regrowth to be proven? So if he wan't totally, 100% bald, with zero hairs showing, in the "before" pictures, then that means this is fake?

Of course he wasn't TOTALLY bald in those areas, he had the very faint outline of a hairline. Which is totally normal for someone who is balding at say NW5 or NW6. It's totally normal for someone to retain some hair in balding areas. I've got a lot of it myself, evenly dispersed over the bald area.

I'm not understanding what you're saying.

Exactly how do you propose he faked this?

Are you saying he wasn't really bald in the first place, and he Photoshopped his hair out to appear bald? Then in the "after" pictures, he gradually un-Photoshopped it?

If he has to provide all this additional proof that you want, then you should explain exactly how, step by step, he faked this.

I think your issue with this is that deep down, you don't think what he did is possible. So you have 100 different ideas about what he may have done to fake it (but interestingly you haven't laid out one idea in detail.)

It's like the rare Asian white tiger...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tiger

Sightings of white tigers are very rare. If someone goes to Asia, finds one, takes pictures and posts pictures of one on the internet, you say: "You must have faked that picture. It was really a regular tiger and you photoshopped it. You didn't really take that picture. You got it off the internet. You didn't really go to Asia. You took that picture in a zoo."

Yeah, right, 100 different conflicting explanations... just because you can't admit that someone really can go to Asia, and by chance, find a white tiger and take a picture of one.

That I think is the fallacy of what you're saying.




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roger_that

MARYLAND,
28.07.2013, 13:02

@ Kevng8322

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Roger_that, the reason for me creating this donation page is because I want financial support from people that benefits from this hair project of mine.


It's obvious you want financial support. But you haven't really answered my question. WHY do you think you deserve financial support for this?! It's YOUR project.

If I'm 50 pounds overweight and I join a gym, and 3 months later somehow I lose all that weight and I'm skinny again, then should I go on the internet, post pictures and then start asking for donations from the public so that I can keep paying the gym??




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 18:33

@ tinytim

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These forums have always been about picking things apart..besides helping each other out. In fact- doing what we're doing is helping each other out. If ppl don't like the back and forth- don't read it.

What gets me is Hairsite not responding to the original poster of this thread. The long thread on this topic- it doesn't even have to do with what this part of the forum is about. Is Scalpmed a sponsor or something? Or has Hairsite just been letting it be- anything goes lately?

And Kevis is perfect for this discussion. Same kind of crap went on with them.

I'll check out your post in the other forum later ;-)




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jarjarbinx

28.07.2013, 18:33

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He's n e-panhandler. He's a spamster. I think that Hairsite should give him the boot in the @ss.




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Jacob

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28.07.2013, 18:46

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Oh WOW! He actually ran around "bald", knowing he was going to be in this for MONEY, knowing everyone, including his family...would know he's doing this- it being on Youtube and Facebook at all. Shocking! It is impossible that everything was staged. After all, he's only in this for MONEY.

I can't wait to see what the new products will be. And which "new" LLLT device will be used. Those who've already bought into this..feeling kind of.._________ yet?(fill in the blank..I'm trying to be nice about it) Now you're going to be told other things need to be added.

Oh and btw..notice the video was never provided. That is how confident Kevin and his helper are. But then again..Kevin has now admitted he's only at what..30-35%. No one has pointed out where in the pictures you can actually see new growth.




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tinytim

28.07.2013, 19:27

@ Jacob

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hi jacob interesting that spectral say minoxidil is for early balding im not sure if thats true because there are some good responders in later stage mpb but too be honest i will say again i wish a natural would regrow hair after all these years we do not seem too have got anywhere surely if we all have real mpb then a product should work on all of us but it does not.
Jacob there must be a natural cure out there for mpb and many other forms of alopecia? how many more years will it be before we could find a drug free product that does something it is really frustrating.
I wonder even if kevin or any of us finds minoxidil works with an oral antiandrogen will it keep our hair for many years or just hold it back a few years.
As said we do not have a cure yet for this disease many of us thought that the natural stemcelex was going to be the cure but that turned out to be another con that was through pictures that were fake.
The new naturals out there maybe a cure for us but if we stop using minoxidil then you get a shed which may make you think that the natural is causing it.
To be honest thats the only reason im not too happy with minox once you start if you do see results it has to be used for the rest of your life i suppose its the same for propecia as well.
But as it is like an illness you have to keep taking the meds also the itchy scalp that affects many on minox and the greasy nature of rogaine and smed makes hairloss look worse unless you wash hair again before going out.
This greasness will be the reason i may have to give up on thhis regrime i hear that kevin says he only washes his hair twice a week with shampoo and only water other times fo me thats hard to do as i like to wash hair everyday with soap i cannot see thats why my hair fell out as we wash our face everyday and other parts.
I suppose minoxidil foam is the best product to use with propecia as its not greasy.
With the spectral products there are many now and i have seen some reports of users that are happy with the minox added ones but i have yet to see any real feedback of regrowth from the natural ones which is a shame.
I have seen posts where the spectral dnc minox changed the formula and did not work as well and they had problems with the bottles.
Is there anyone still using spectral products here that is happy with regrowth and if so which version?
And jacob are you using capillogain still as there is no one saying it works.




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@ roger_that

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"So what?! Are you saying he had to be TOTALLY bald for the regrowth to be proven? So if he wan't totally, 100% bald, with zero hairs showing, in the "before" pictures, then that means this is fake?"

No, if you've read my other posts, and I'm not the only one who's said this- he has a lot of hair in the "before"- it's just short and thinned out. And the picture isn't exactly crisp and clear.

"Of course he wasn't TOTALLY bald in those areas, he had the very faint outline of a hairline. Which is totally normal for someone who is balding at say NW5 or NW6. It's totally normal for someone to retain some hair in balding areas. I've got a lot of it myself, evenly dispersed over the bald area."

Then you have the sides that are also thinned out in the before- shaved down or whatever. Yes it's normal to retain hair in balding areas. And that's what is really showing on his pictures, even though the pictures aren't that clear. His video also shows- a lot of scalp. Imagine if it were under nice lighting- same kind of shots as the pics.

I think I need to remind ppl that the claim for the last "after" is at 120 days.


"I'm not understanding what you're saying.

Exactly how do you propose he faked this?

Are you saying he wasn't really bald in the first place, and he Photoshopped his hair out to appear bald? Then in the "after" pictures, he gradually un-Photoshopped it?"

It's simple. His video shows it's not as great as what ppl were thinking right away. You said earlier a "faint hairline". You can see faintly, all the hairs in the befores. Now picture the photo actually being clear. Now picture all those hairs just growing longer. Even Kevin is now admitting he's at 30-35%. But of course he's got other things you will have to now add. Send him some cash!

Feel free to show me where you see actual new growth.


"If he has to provide all this additional proof that you want, then you should explain exactly how, step by step, he faked this."

No, I should not have to do that. Even though I have. It shouldn't even be about me proving anything. He is the one that was asked to just provide an overhead shot/video in good lighting. That is "all this addional proof" that was asked. The whole point of providing such a video was to just show things better- to even prove me wrong if that's what you want to call it.

"I think your issue with this is that deep down, you don't think what he did is possible. So you have 100 different ideas about what he may have done to fake it (but interestingly you haven't laid out one idea in detail.)"

No..I saw "Scalpmed" and went from there. It doesn't mean anyone using the product is a shill/spammer. But when you combine the Youtube videos and Facebook page..the way the pictures were taken and the videos shot..and the refusal to just provide one additional video..the tag-teaming..on and on..anyone with half a brain should question it. Oh...and then there's the fundraising page.

"It's like the rare Asian white tiger...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tiger

Sightings of white tigers are very rare. If someone goes to Asia, finds one, takes pictures and posts pictures of one on the internet, you say: "You must have faked that picture. It was really a regular tiger and you photoshopped it. You didn't really take that picture. You got it off the internet. You didn't really go to Asia. You took that picture in a zoo."

Yeah, right, 100 different conflicting explanations... just because you can't admit that someone really can go to Asia, and by chance, find a white tiger and take a picture of one.

That I think is the fallacy of what you're saying."

Is someone asking for money in that case? That is just one problem with your goofy analogy.




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28.07.2013, 19:32

@ roger_that

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Roger_that, the reason for me creating this donation page is because I want financial support from people that benefits from this hair project of mine.

Originally Posted by roger_that


It's obvious you want financial support. But you haven't really answered my question. WHY do you think you deserve financial support for this?! It's YOUR project.

If I'm 50 pounds overweight and I join a gym, and 3 months later somehow I lose all that weight and I'm skinny again, then should I go on the internet, post pictures and then start asking for donations from the public so that I can keep paying the gym??


Thats a great question, why do I think I deserve financial support?

let me ask you this, if this personal hair project of mine benefits the entire world, do you think I deserve sponsorship to continue?

If I was a fat kid and simply go to the gym and got skinny again. Post pictures of before and after, then ask for financial support, then it would be very stupid of me, wouldnt it? Comparing being fat to skinny and being Bald and grow hair is comparing something that is doable to something that is nearly inevitable.

But let me see if I can reason this right, if I was a fat kid and found a solution that make fat people lose weight at an incredible rate and share the secret with the world through a project of his, then I believe that fat kid would still deserve sponsorship.

I did mentioned in the first video that there is absolutely no obligation, that only if anyone feels that this project benefits him dramatically, and if he feels that would like to donate, then I would thank him. This goes to Tim, Sonny, and anyone else. It does not bother me or hurt my feelings if people dont donate. I would just thank people if they do.

Sonny, and Roger. Trying to reason with Ms/Mr. OMG is impossible. He does not answer your question and reason with logic/facts. That's why I dont bother to argue with him anymore.




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28.07.2013, 19:37

@ Jacob

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Guys just got an email from agestop uk and they have folligain 5% minox which is made by anagen research at only £22.95 uk for three months supply which is a good price im not saying simply buy this but agestop does supply polaris labs minox and spectral and if smed was a miracle then many of these shops would stock it.
By the way i mentioned the folligain 5% because they have a picture before and after which looks even better regrowth than smed hahaha here we go again take a look jacob?:clap:




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28.07.2013, 19:43

@ Kevng8322

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If there's a question from anybody I haven't answered- please let me know. Logic/facts? Should we go over them all again? And how about- common sense?

You, on the other hand...finally after about a week decided to respond to some of my questions/points being made. And in doing so, actually had the gall to try to turn it into yet another money-making opportunity.




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28.07.2013, 20:03

@ tinytim

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On Cap..I've only been using it on the receding/stubborn areas lately. As you know..it has that minox-like ingred in it..and I *may* be sensitive to it- heart-related issues like others have reported with minox as well. I planned to switch to the new version that doesn't have that ingred anyway. Or possibly some other product.

And yeah..a lot of initial good results with it from various ppl..and others- nothing. Curious to see any updates in the near future...




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28.07.2013, 20:34

@ Jacob

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BTW..when I say above: "Imagine if it were under nice lighting- same kind of shots as the pics." ..I'm only referring to the angle- the overhead shots, of the pics. Not the lighting..and definitely not the clarity.




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28.07.2013, 20:53

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This whole issue about the Fundraiser is blown way out of proportion. I think it's just a distraction to his success.

Has he made any money off of it?! NO. Do you think he will make money? So far, the consensus says he will not...possibly not even a dime. It's a FUNDRAISER for christ sake...he's not publishing his findings in a book where you have to purchase it!

As for the idiotic reply about Kevin involving his family and friends on this whole thing to make MONEY....just f'ing stupid!!! Again, it's a donation site, it does not guarantee he will make ANY money at all. Why would someone shave his head bald especially leaving the horse shoe pattern and walk around in public and get his family and friends involved just for some measly donations?! I wouldn't do it for a single day if someone paid me $10K. Maybe I'll do it for $20K :confused:

I believe Kevin was seriously bald and had great success with his regimen...simple as that.




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28.07.2013, 21:14

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What's "f'ing stupid!!!" is you helping out Kevin..as best you can..whenever you can. You even take turns responding to me instead of having to respond yourselves to what was just said to you. What's "f'ing stupid!!!" is sounding like a parrot. What's "f'ing stupid!!!" is you not using some common sense if you indeed are just some ordinary person/poster. Of course that's why you showed up and just on this topic.

Maybe Kevin was "f'ing stupid!!!" to think that he'd actually get a lot of donations. But..so because he supposedly hasn't so far gotten much of any...or there was no guarantee that he would get much..then none of it could have been planned. :ok:

Then there's the potential ScalpCrap connection..the other things you now will have to use/buy to keep up with Kevin. Etc.

Oh and btw..notice the video was never provided. That is how confident Kevin and his helper are. But then again..Kevin has now admitted he's only at what..30-35%. No one has pointed out where in the pictures you can actually see new growth.




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28.07.2013, 21:21

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It\'s simple. His video shows it\'s not as great as what ppl were thinking right away. You said earlier a \"faint hairline\". You can see faintly, all the hairs in the befores. Now picture the photo actually being clear. Now picture all those hairs just growing longer. Even Kevin is now admitting he\'s at 30-35%. But of course he\'s got other things you will have to now add. Send him some cash!

This cracks me up so hard. So you\'re saying, the day 1 picture (which I was at NW6) is not clear that\'s why it shows my scalp more? and when I grow out my hair and show clearer pictures, it will disguise my baldness? So you\'re saying I was never at the NW6 stage?

How about this, I\'ve done enough of proving, Roger is right. How about you show pictures of yourself from Day 1 to day 120 with any lighting you want and prove me wrong. If you\'re willing to do this, I have no problem creating another video just for you. And no, I\'m not trying to buy time, I\'ve been doing this sh!t for 8 years, time will not make a difference.

All these pictures were taken from my IPhone4S (and no I\'m not trying to promote iphones). The Day 60 and Day120 pictures were taken in front of my house, in day light! with no lighting effects. You can clearly see shoes and slips in those pictures infront of my house.

And no Ms/Mr. OMG I\'m not telling people to give me some cash so I can provide additional information. I decided not to mention any more products because I dont want to promote any more products on youtube. Anything I said on the video, is a promotion. And dont want ungrateful bastards like you to benefit from the information either.




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28.07.2013, 23:25

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You are paranoid. You have so much dirt and stench inside you that you think people are the same as you.

These forums are here for me to voice my opinion and support what i believe just as you get to. Just because i support Kevin in this argument does not mean i'm connected to him. The reason you think i'm "parroting" what he says and tag-teaming is because i'm basically stating the obvious, which happens to coincide with what Kevin is communicating.

Of course i've only been here for this topic. I'm a newbie...you branded me that remember? I've been following his posts since i found it on youtube then here. Stop being so paranoid and breathe a little...relax or you'll starting squeaking. Have some faith in people and know that some people can have those results...fundraisers or not.

As far as i know scalp med can kiss my ass! Although I'm on it, but i did state in the previous thread that it's probably just the Finasteride, minoxidil, biotin, and silica. Why don't you disect what i said there?

Stop sitting there nit-picking and stirring up confrontation to appease yourself. Go and grow some hair!!!




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I did mentioned in the first video that there is absolutely no obligation, that only if anyone feels that this project benefits him dramatically, and if he feels that would like to donate, then I would thank him. This goes to Tim, Sonny, and anyone else. It does not bother me or hurt my feelings if people dont donate. I would just thank people if they do.


I still don't understand why you want other people to subsidize YOUR treatment. Isn't the whole point to share your information with other people and then let them try it on themselves? The next logical step for them would not be to continue subsidizing your treatment, it would be to try it on themselves. For that they would need money. Shouldn't they be spending that money on themselves and not on you?

The point is you've proven (?) that it can be done. WTF more do we need to know than that?




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29.07.2013, 00:44

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Roger you know you're right. He's an e-panhandler is all.



I did mentioned in the first video that there is absolutely no obligation, that only if anyone feels that this project benefits him dramatically, and if he feels that would like to donate, then I would thank him. This goes to Tim, Sonny, and anyone else. It does not bother me or hurt my feelings if people dont donate. I would just thank people if they do.

Originally Posted by roger_that


I still don't understand why you want other people to subsidize YOUR treatment. Isn't the whole point to share your information with other people and then let them try it on themselves? The next logical step for them would not be to continue subsidizing your treatment, it would be to try it on themselves. For that they would need money. Shouldn't they be spending that money on themselves and not on you?

The point is you've proven (?) that it can be done. WTF more do we need to know than that?





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29.07.2013, 01:23

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No..the dirt and stench are you and Kevin.

The only "obvious" thing you're doing is losing the argument. Going from one thing to the next. Or letting Kevin jump in for you..and vice versa. And yes, being a parrot.

Don't forget you now need to get on whatever else he's found that he obviously needs to use to get some obvious real new growth. Obviously :ok:




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29.07.2013, 01:34

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Originally Posted by roger_that


I still don't understand why you want other people to subsidize YOUR treatment. Isn't the whole point to share your information with other people and then let them try it on themselves? The next logical step for them would not be to continue subsidizing your treatment, it would be to try it on themselves. For that they would need money. Shouldn't they be spending that money on themselves and not on you?

The point is you've proven (?) that it can be done. WTF more do we need to know than that?


So your point is if a person subsidize my regimen and IF it works for them significantly, why the hell would they need to know about my fundraising campaign? That they should just take the information and benefits themselves and mock me for even having the site in the first place, even though I never obligated them to do so?

I respect your opinion Roger, and I sure hope not everyone feels this way.
Like Sonny said, this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and focus on negativity rather then on what matters. I never even mentioned about my donation page in the first place. Ms/Ms OMG did a great job of bringing it up and turned it into the focus of the argument.

Sonny and Tim, I hope you find success, I dont think I would be coming back here anymore because like Mr/Ms OMG said that these forum seems to be about picking people's apart rather then finding a solution.


Good luck everyone.




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29.07.2013, 01:48

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So this is what..the 5th time you've lied now about your not going to respond to me anymore?

I can't tell if you're playing dumb again, or just are. Let me make it simple for you:
The day 1 picture is blurry yet you can still see all the little hairs that will become the big hairs in the followup blurry pictures. Yes, you can even see your blurry scalp in that picture. Otay?

As for me showing pictures- I'm sorry..am I running around claiming I've found the answer- at least to get to 30-35%(now)..do I have Youtube Videos and a Facebook page claiming all this crap, and also putting my hand out?

Yes, you are buying time. You've been stalling from the day the video was requested. Both of you were saying whatever you could think of to avoid having to provide it. Then you decided to try to use it to make some money off it. Now you want to have a comparison game with someone who is not making stupid-a** claims and putting up social pages and videos and asking for money.

But you're forgetting what I've(and others) been saying- the before pictures are not showing that you were slick bald in those areas anyway. In fact they show quite a bit of hair- even as blurry as the pictures are. Do you know how many pictures there are out there with short hair like that- and then "afters" are, for the most part- just the hair growing out?

Then we have you admitting you've only gone 30-35% now. So if the scalp shows as much as I think it would(as it does in your current vids)- probably more in good lighting..I guess I'm baffled as to why you didn't just provide a video. I'm guessing because of just that- that it would show more.



" Anything I said on the video, is a promotion. "

There's another great quote from Kevin the..oh I'll be nice.




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29.07.2013, 01:52

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You're damn right I brought it up. Thankfully I think many jumped ship after digging into things more after I did.

And now they find out things aren't so great after all, and you need to get on a bunch of other things Kevin just magically has found will do the job.




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29.07.2013, 02:50

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Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

This thread snakes its' way to oblivion. It just goes on and on and on. It pushes meaningful hair-related threads down further and further and further into the abyss.




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29.07.2013, 03:45

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Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

And now they've been moved to do the same in this section :clap:

But now that I think about it..it may actually be a good idea to leave them up..somewhere at least.




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sonnyL

29.07.2013, 05:01

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Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

If anyone's a shill around here, it's you...and you are threatened by the attention Kevin is getting...perhaps some jealousy? :crying:

The regimen is showing more positive results each day for me, so i'm not loosing at all. It's your lost.




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29.07.2013, 05:37

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Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

EACH DAY folks! Now THAT oughta get EVERYbody jealous enough to jump on board! And run out and get...oh wait, we don't yet know what we're supposed to get next..to get to the next level. I know some LLLT device was mentioned. Maybe a pacifier with time-released hair-growing ingredients in it. A rattle with just the right sound/vibrations to induce hair growth.

Next level..sounds like Scientology or something :lol2:

Yep...it's my "lost". :ok:




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29.07.2013, 06:29

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Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

Each day that I see less shedding is a positive result. How hard is that to understand? Do I have to spell out everything for you? That's what i mean by "f'ing stupid". Your brain is so enclosed it's pathetic. Again, this is where i wish for the smiley with a Dunce cap.




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29.07.2013, 18:23

@ sonnyL

Hairsite, please remove this entire thread.

I don't think you spelling everything out is going to help(or be believed). After all..it is my "lost" :ok:




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30.07.2013, 12:49

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I thought i would tell you guys after going bact to spectral dnc that made my scalp very dry after a days use so have returned to smed as said a while back i do have anther 3months left of it and my scalp was in good condition using it with as said very small amount of tiny hairs growing in places not a miracle but worth carring on until end of product.
As to the constant bickering about this on both sides we need concentrate on what matters and thats helping with mpb and whats true or not and you can rely on me to tell what result if any i get.
As for the money thing again with kevin he did not talk about this on the video and im not sure who drew attention to it as i did not notice it.
Even then its his video and he i beleave is not getting anything from any company for the video and jacob the first product is totally natural and maybe what helps the minox work but we i will have to wait to see how i get on with the regrime, as im only be on it for 32 days as i missed a day or so on spectral.:waving:




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30.07.2013, 17:22

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