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where is the marco thread gone? (Hair Transplant)

posted by marco, U.K, 02.01.2013, 02:14

» Marco speaking as a repair patient I can imagine exactly how you feel and
» only wish you the best in finding a solution which certainly is not easy.
» Unfortunately this seems to be a very secretive business which many would
» like to keep secretive regardless of those that try to shine some light on
» it. Eventually those that seem to be manipulating the informative much to
» the detriment of prospective patients of who believe they are reading
» honest, unbiased and reliable information will be found to be just as
» guilty in the resulting damages patients are experiencing through their
» collusion with those actually causing the damage. I believe this will all
» happen in time.

Sure, here is some of what was published in the original thread which is still live by cached search. I am assuming that hairsite will have no problem with this as I can only guess he thought that I would want it removed but that is not the case even though I had not encouraged it, I am a great believer in truth and discussion.


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posted by hairlove, U.S.A, 30.12.2012, 19:08
» » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» »
» » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
»
»
» Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.
This is SAD real sad...i feel sorry for him, maatj if you are reading this please inform the forum about marco's status.No one deserves to end like this without clinic owing any responsibility at all.
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posted by mofoman, 30.12.2012, 20:52
I assume the Dr. was Rahal as the post said the procedure was done in Ottawa.

Has anyone heard from any of his reps or from Rahal personally about this result. Does not seem typical of his work.

I am very sad for marco and disappointed in the Dr. for allowing it to get to this point.

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posted by Jorge1977 , 31.12.2012, 08:04
» » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» »
» » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
»
»
» Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.

That is so very sad and my prayers go out to Marco. I wonder if this could this be a result of ultra dense packing where the skin is not able to heal properly?
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posted by hairlove, U.S.A, 31.12.2012, 13:55
» What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this
» is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and
» they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if
» they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone
» told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years
» ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger
» guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen
» those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in
» reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone
» can make a few more dollars.
»
» It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible,
» just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the
» patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end
» up destroying your own life.

but marco is no young chap,he had a sea of knowledge,took his time deciding(over 10 yrs) and is a very informed,mature poster.

I wish the clinic would have recognised the imminent necrosis earlier and done something about it!
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posted by HelloWorld, 31.12.2012, 14:02
» What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this
» is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and
» they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if
» they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone
» told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years
» ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger
» guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen
» those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in
» reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone
» can make a few more dollars.
»
» It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible,
» just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the
» patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end
» up destroying your own life.

Topcat you appear to be a very bitter, angry man. There is a slight amount of wisdom in your post but most of your posts are about the same thing. You always bring up "young guys" getting HT as if Marco was 1) a young guy 2) he didnt know what he was getting himself into.

I hope that situation is rectified by the Dr., but I doubt it. I am not sure what you're attempting to grasp at with these posts Topcat. Because your head is screwed up no one else should get surgery if their situation is correct?
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posted by hairlove, U.S.A, 31.12.2012, 14:30
» HelloWorld maybe you should read it again. Mega procedures are a bad idea
» and a huge gamble and often times fail you just never get to see those
» results.
»
» Does this mean you shouldn't have a hair transplant? Where exactly did I
» write that? I wrote stick you toe in the water and have the smallest
» procedure possible and not believe what these clowns on message forums such
» as yourself write.
»
» Who are you? How many procedures have you had? What exactly is your
» experience? How many people have you spoken to both in and outside the
» industry? Where are your pictures posted? How long have you been posting?
» Who have you helped along the way?
»
» Answer these questions or get lost.
»
» I also understand that Marco has been around for a long time and is hardly
» young but not having a mega session still applies regardless of age.

topcat,
eventhough you advocste small sessions,i dont think marco's decision to go for mega session can be put to any blame. i dont think Marco did anything overtly wrong so as to end up with result like this.Even if it was an uninformed young chap rushing into surgery and getting where he is right now,i would not be blaming the patient because in this case its necrosis that i believe should have been promptly recognised and treated by the clinic.Or the very least i would expect would be an acknowledgement and refund on the part of the clinic.
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posted by G-MAN13, 31.12.2012, 21:10
I was going 2 make a surgery with dr.Rahal, but now i dont know what to think...
May be a poor Marco is just a bad exception????
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posted by hairlove, U.S.A, 01.01.2013, 07:45
» So who here is taking the step and gives marco an REAL advise?
»
» I will do it, Marco pal, if you still read here, then one thing is for sure
» VISIT GHO
»
» Thats all i am saying
»
» Dont go for FUE or FUT again and dont listen to what topcat is saying (pro
» bono leech) now you have o minimize the damage and HST is your answer

lets avoid getting personel here and lets not jump to advicing him to go to particular doctor but focus on his present situation and asking the clinic who did this to show some empathy to his situation and own responsibility.Its only ethical thing to do for the clinic.
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posted by Wylie, 01.01.2013, 11:44
» (Hairsite, please kick the Gho shills off this this thread.)

Agreed.

Back on topic

Legal damages from this result may or may not be forthcoming, I don't think financial compensation is marco's first concern right now, I re-read his original (now locked) post and learned a few things:

1) He is a successful CEO and scientist.
2) He researched this surgery like a scientist would, and I'm not sure I've ever seen such thorough research before. Have a look at his journal for an example.

While it seems to be too much surgery too soon, marco himself wanted this surgery completed in as little time as possible (he stated as much) and I don't know if this approach that marco took was itself unconventional, but he clearly had some control over it, and this approach could be something that Dr. Rahal does not usually follow. So the question of liability for this outcome could be subject to much finger pointing at present, I'm not sure. It also sounds as if the aftercare was neglected, which certainly reflects poorly on this clinic.
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posted by Obamaman, 01.01.2013, 14:36
They turn or can turn a blindeye because they dont have to fear consequences. Just take a look here.

people like topcat or cal are playing white knights for them. Topcat doesnt care about marco as a person, all he cares is "Ohhh now i can repeat my same old story about small sessions again and i get attention"

And when people finally call him out on this he acts like a moron.

Another point is, WHY is marcos thread locked here in this "consumer information" forum?

Just for the record, marco now has 4 instead of one problem

1) Necrose tissue
2) depleted donor
3) scar tissue from FUT
4) possible baldness going further

And now tell me my dear fellas HOW if not with Gho could he adress all those problems? Hmmm any ideas? And dont come with pro Bono topcat work.

Necrotic tissue needs extra care taking now, in terms of grafts. Is this possible with traditional transplants? NO NEVER POSSIBLE. With Body hair? NOPE its already hard to get body hair to grow on normal balding zones, how hard is it to get it grow on very extensive scar tissue

Depleted donor. What can he do? He is forced to at least EXPAND his donor. How is this manageable? Three letters.

Scar tissue from FUT. Well thats a secondary problem right now. But it remains

Possible baldness going further. Only manageable with expanded donor

But i guess topcat will now repeat

"Have you had your Gho thingy? Have you ever had a transplant? Gho is unproven"

I can answer that Ghos HST is explicitely and foremost for burn victims. For us as a cosmetical procedure its secondary.

I wonder why everyone is so silent right now and nobody from the old pranksters is playing the " You are Stevie Dee" card.

I guess the necrosis case with forum lockdown and the deleted Armani threads have make even the dumbest shills here uncomfortable. It must be very taugh that the all side hated Gho seems to be the only honest surgeon around these days.

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posted by cal, 01.01.2013, 09:58
(Hairsite, please kick the Gho shills off this this thread.)



This is shocking. I had a pretty bad feeling when Marco showed the pics that looked like necrotic skin but I didn't think it would be this bad when it all finished healing up.



My first offhand thought would be to investigate what might be done for a burn victim with scalp scarring. It's not the same situation but it seems more applicable than the field of HT work at this point.

Perhaps some type of skin grafting could eventually be done. It wouldn't be hair but it would be something. I don't know what the options are for this right now but that kind of medicine has been steadily advancing these last couple of decades.



If the doc doesn't try to help then he is really sc_um. Bad results are one thing, but cutting off contact as soon as it happens is something else. He oughtta be paying out of pocket to do anything that can be done for Marco. This wasn't just a "bad growth", it was real disfigurement.

If the doc knew the skin was going necrotic, and kept telling the patient that it was fine . . . I smell some possible legal leverage for Marco there. He probably won't be able to get the doc for the original problem, but maybe he could get the doc for worsening the problem by willfully deceiving him about the fact that it needed immediate treatment.



This is really sad. It's just awful.



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• where is the marco thread gone? - hairlove, 01.01.2013, 23:57 (Hair Transplant)
  • where is the marco thread gone? - Obamaman, 02.01.2013, 00:01
    • where is the marco thread gone? - KO, 02.01.2013, 00:16
      • where is the marco thread gone? - Wylie, 02.01.2013, 00:32
        • where is the marco thread gone? - MPB, 02.01.2013, 00:39
          • where is the marco thread gone? - Wylie, 02.01.2013, 00:47
            • where is the marco thread gone? - MPB, 02.01.2013, 00:56
              • where is the marco thread gone? - Obamaman, 02.01.2013, 01:06
                • where is the marco thread gone? - Wylie, 02.01.2013, 01:39
          • where is the marco thread gone? - marco, 02.01.2013, 01:13
            • where is the marco thread gone? - commanderfink, 02.01.2013, 01:18
            • where is the marco thread gone? - hairlove, 02.01.2013, 01:30
              • where is the marco thread gone? - topcat611, 02.01.2013, 01:56
                • where is the marco thread gone? - HelloWorld, 02.01.2013, 02:11
                • where is the marco thread gone? - marco, 02.01.2013, 02:14
  • where is the marco thread gone? - marco, 02.01.2013, 02:28
    • where is the marco thread gone? - diamond6, 02.01.2013, 05:17
    • where is the marco thread gone? - thincity2, 02.01.2013, 05:19
    • where is the marco thread gone? - JJJ Jr. S, 02.01.2013, 05:20
      • where is the marco thread gone? - JJJ Jr. S, 02.01.2013, 05:32
        • where is the marco thread gone? - HelloWorld, 02.01.2013, 05:54
          • where is the marco thread gone? - Wylie, 02.01.2013, 23:56
            • where is the marco thread gone? - marco, 03.01.2013, 00:42
            • where is the marco thread gone? - commanderfink, 04.01.2013, 00:31
  • where is the marco thread gone? - HairSite, 02.01.2013, 23:57
    • where is the marco thread gone? - cal, 03.01.2013, 00:36
  • Permission for Hussain Rahal to address the thread - marco, 03.01.2013, 21:18
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