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posted by cal, 15.05.2016, 06:09
(edited by cal on 15.05.2016, 06:34)

Most likely it can have two effects, one de novo growth on hairless skin, and another effect of reviving miniaturized follicles on scalp skin that had succumbed to non-scarring alopecia.

I see absolutely no reason why the de novo effect would not be occurring on skin with existing hairs. And given how difficult it has always been to revive androgen-damaged hairs in any serious way, I find the de novo idea much easier to believe.

I think it's safe to say that most of the effect it has on people who dermabrade their scalps is in reviving miniaturized follicles.


It might very well be true. But there is no more reason to assume it than to assume the de novo effect isn't there.

Follica found it pretty easy to use skin wounding to provoke "proto follicle structures" and they didn't say the existing condition/history of the skin had any bearing on it.

And let me throw in something else here: The Gefitnib patient who grew a patch of new hair on his long-balded head, got new hair without visble graying. The rest of his existing hair was decidedly salt-n-pepper looking. It doesn't necessarily prove anything but it's interesting IMO.

The question is, are people going to agree to have regular dermabrasion just to get the very marginal benefit of reviving a few hairs?

I am not now, and never have been, arguing that dermabrasion alone is a viable MPB treatment. The principle appears to work but the cost/benefit ratio isn't even in the ballpark.

The combination of wounding + pharamceutical assistance could be a game-changer. That has always been my primary argument. One of the most respected hair researchers in the industry has spent the last decade getting investor money & making discoveries on the same original premise.

I do complain that we've seen a lot of HM trials involving wounding ("skin perturbation" or "scalp stimulation" etc) and they brush that off as if it has no relevance to their successes. I think that's deceptive and I think they know it.

If dermabrading is found to work much better in conjunction with some as yet unknown "magic" chemical, then to keep up the effect, you'd still have to get regular dermabrasion. Any effects of dermabrasion would be self-limited and transient.

Your conjecture says this is the case. Many years of anecdotal evidence suggests that it's not.

And that's not even considering the long-term deleterious effect it would have on the tissues. Just because something can grow hair in the short term, doesn't mean it also can't be harming the follicles in the long term.

On this I agree. Superficial wounding is not the ideal way to provoke regrowth. I only support it because it has a far better track record than anything else.

Lots of respected MPB treatments slow down the MPB process or reverse it very slightly for a few years. Skin wounding can produce fully thick pre-MPB-looking hairs. The hairs can last for years without even androgen-blocking maintenance. If we could harness the wounding effect in a usable way, it would be far more practical & effective than any other MPB treatment we have even attempted to do, let alone succeeded at doing.

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