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levrais

04.01.2013, 17:15
 

Is this marco? (Hair Transplant)

I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.

http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/




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KO

30.12.2012, 21:23

@ levrais

Is this marco?

» I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
»
» http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/


Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.




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johndoe888

31.12.2012, 01:06

@ KO

Is this marco?

» » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» »
» » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
»
»
» Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.

oh my god. please tell me there is a lawsuit pending




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hairlove

U.S.A,
31.12.2012, 01:08

@ KO

Is this marco?

» » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» »
» » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
»
»
» Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.
This is SAD real sad...i feel sorry for him, maatj if you are reading this please inform the forum about marco's status.No one deserves to end like this without clinic owing any responsibility at all.



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hairlove

U.S.A,
31.12.2012, 01:10

@ johndoe888

Is this marco?

» » » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» » »
» » » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
» »
» »
» » Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.
»
» oh my god. please tell me there is a lawsuit pending

the emotional and mental agony this guy must be facing is beyond the comprehension of any judge out there.



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mofoman

31.12.2012, 02:52

@ hairlove

Is this marco?

I assume the Dr. was Rahal as the post said the procedure was done in Ottawa.

Has anyone heard from any of his reps or from Rahal personally about this result. Does not seem typical of his work.

I am very sad for marco and disappointed in the Dr. for allowing it to get to this point.




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Jorge1977

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31.12.2012, 14:04

@ KO

Is this marco?

» » I came across this link and some of the pics are identical to Marco's
» » thread. I tried to post there but I think the thread is locked.
» »
» » http://sandrag99.blogspot.com/
»
»
» Yes. That's definitely him. So that's how he ended up.

That is so very sad and my prayers go out to Marco. I wonder if this could this be a result of ultra dense packing where the skin is not able to heal properly?




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topcat611

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31.12.2012, 17:34

@ Jorge1977

Is this marco?

What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone can make a few more dollars.

It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible, just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end up destroying your own life.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

hairdar

31.12.2012, 19:08

@ topcat611

Marco is well regarded around here.....

Marco is well regarded around here it would be nice to think the Dr would step in and repair this ASAP either himself or with the Dr of Marco's choice.

Seems like Marco is in a bad place right now and I'm sure the last thing he needs is a back and forth with a Dr, his legal team, hairsite or forum members.

Fingers crossed the Dr does the right thing.

:-(




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fordham

31.12.2012, 19:50

@ hairdar

Marco is well regarded around here.....

It's hard to come to any opinion about this case, until we get an explanation, with details, from Marco about what took place. If he suffered gangrene, how long after his last surgery did it start to develop? I would also like to read the doctor's account of what took place.




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hairlove

U.S.A,
31.12.2012, 19:55

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this
» is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and
» they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if
» they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone
» told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years
» ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger
» guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen
» those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in
» reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone
» can make a few more dollars.
»
» It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible,
» just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the
» patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end
» up destroying your own life.

but marco is no young chap,he had a sea of knowledge,took his time deciding(over 10 yrs) and is a very informed,mature poster.

I wish the clinic would have recognised the imminent necrosis earlier and done something about it!



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HelloWorld

31.12.2012, 20:02

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this
» is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and
» they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if
» they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone
» told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years
» ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger
» guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen
» those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in
» reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone
» can make a few more dollars.
»
» It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible,
» just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the
» patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end
» up destroying your own life.

Topcat you appear to be a very bitter, angry man. There is a slight amount of wisdom in your post but most of your posts are about the same thing. You always bring up "young guys" getting HT as if Marco was 1) a young guy 2) he didnt know what he was getting himself into.

I hope that situation is rectified by the Dr., but I doubt it. I am not sure what you're attempting to grasp at with these posts Topcat. Because your head is screwed up no one else should get surgery if their situation is correct?




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topcat611

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31.12.2012, 20:13
(edited by topcat611, 31.12.2012, 20:34)

@ HelloWorld

Is this marco?

HelloWorld maybe you should read it again. Mega procedures are a bad idea and a huge gamble and often times fail you just never get to see those results.

Does this mean you shouldn't have a hair transplant? Where exactly did I write that? I wrote stick you toe in the water and have the smallest procedure possible and not believe what these clowns on message forums such as yourself write.

Who are you? How many procedures have you had? What exactly is your experience? How many people have you spoken to both in and outside the industry? Where are your pictures posted? How long have you been posting? Who have you helped along the way?

Answer these questions or get lost.

I also understand that Marco has been around for a long time and is hardly young but not having a mega session still applies regardless of age.

Don't let my no nonsense style of posting be confused with bitterness as it is hardly the case. I don't have time for bulls*it so I just tell it like I see it. Too many come to these forums only looking to help themselves and not others and that is why this all continues. Those that come to help others on these forums make up less than 5% of the posters and they know who they are the rest as I wrote are only looking to help themselves or work in the industry.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

hairlove

U.S.A,
31.12.2012, 20:30

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» HelloWorld maybe you should read it again. Mega procedures are a bad idea
» and a huge gamble and often times fail you just never get to see those
» results.
»
» Does this mean you shouldn't have a hair transplant? Where exactly did I
» write that? I wrote stick you toe in the water and have the smallest
» procedure possible and not believe what these clowns on message forums such
» as yourself write.
»
» Who are you? How many procedures have you had? What exactly is your
» experience? How many people have you spoken to both in and outside the
» industry? Where are your pictures posted? How long have you been posting?
» Who have you helped along the way?
»
» Answer these questions or get lost.
»
» I also understand that Marco has been around for a long time and is hardly
» young but not having a mega session still applies regardless of age.

topcat,
eventhough you advocste small sessions,i dont think marco's decision to go for mega session can be put to any blame. i dont think Marco did anything overtly wrong so as to end up with result like this.Even if it was an uninformed young chap rushing into surgery and getting where he is right now,i would not be blaming the patient because in this case its necrosis that i believe should have been promptly recognised and treated by the clinic.Or the very least i would expect would be an acknowledgement and refund on the part of the clinic.



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KO

31.12.2012, 20:52

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» What is important about these pictures are showing what can happen and this
» is only one example. A lot of these young guys think this is all a joke and
» they can just go anywhere to have a procedure or they simply believe if
» they read enough somehow they will make a good choice after all everyone
» told them it was a top clinic and all the guys that had procedures 20 years
» ago are just bitter about making bad decisions. Maybe some of these younger
» guys deserve what they get, oh that’s right you have heard about or seen
» those cases as you haven’t spoken to anyone and met enough people. But in
» reality nobody deserves something like this to happen to them so someone
» can make a few more dollars.
»
» It is up to each prospective patient to take as little risk as possible,
» just stick your toe in the water. Mega procedures are a mega risk for the
» patient. If you fall into this trap of I got to have now you could well end
» up destroying your own life.

Marco is not a young guy, he has been following this for years and years. So I don't believe he "deserves what he gets". No one deserves his fate.

If your goal is to provide "straight talk like how it is" to the rest of us idiots, that's fine, but this is blaming the victim. Feel free to stop posting.




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Obamaman

31.12.2012, 21:29

@ KO

Is this marco?

I know marco. All i can ay is topcat just shut up. Shut up for the love of god just shut up. You dont know anything at all. I agree with all posters here who criticise you for being just downright bitter.

You always post your same nonsense "one Fits all" statement about youngsters and bla bla high density sessions.

You dont know sh*t buddy marco is not a youngster, actually he was thinking about his HT for a long time, for a very long time. He balanced the pros and cons.

So spar us with your Full of Bitterness talk, we are all sick of it. Stick with your repair updates but dont give "good advise" to people because you dont know anything at all.

Everywhere you have to post your nonsense statement all the time. You are not a patient advocat NOR are you a person i would really lean to for informations.

Facts are, marco now has very severe necrosis scars which are NOT able to be repaired, no never. Thanks for your prayings here rather then topcat Nonsense talk.

For the record, the necrosis was not a result of "too dense packed youngster session" so shut up topcat.

I coukd talk about your repair case topcat, but i wont because unlike you, who always tries to educate us IDIOTS, i know when to shut up




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topcat611

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31.12.2012, 21:44

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

I wrote in reality no one deserves this go back and read it again.

If this procedure was half the size or less it is very likely in my opinion necrosis would not have been an issue.

The following is from Dr. Bernstein’s site and I believe he does not perform mega procedures. Under the surgical techniques it mostly all relates to size of the procedure. I’m sure if Marco were around he would advise others to in fact go for a much smaller procedure but maybe he can’t post for some odd reason knowing the way this industry operates. I’m sure if Marco were reading this he would approve of getting as much information out there as possible.

Rare Complication Of A Hair Transplant: Necrosis In The Recipient Area
July 3rd, 2012

Q: What is the most common cause of necrosis (death of tissue) in the recipient area?

A: Recipient site necrosis is one of the worst complications of a hair transplant and results in skin ulceration and scarring. Usually it is caused by a combination of a few or many of the factors listed below. Each by itself should not present a risk.

Pre-existing conditions in the patient such as:

1. smoking (the big one)

2. diabetes (juvenile more than adult onset)

3. photo-damage (alters the collagen and vasculature)

4. long-standing baldness (less blood supply when there are no follicles)
Poor surgical techniques:

1. recipient sites that are too large

2. recipient sites that are placed too closely (too dense)

3. too many grafts placed at one time

4. too much epinephrine used in the procedure

5. multiple procedures in one session — i.e. FUE and FUE in same session, or large FUT and Graft excision, scalp reduction, etc.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Obamaman

31.12.2012, 21:55

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

WHO do you think you are to speak for marco? You and your constant battle against Mega Sessions. marco never had one of your so called Megy Hyper Future sessions.

And please stop to talk about small 500 Graft sessions because your in your case its the only thing you can afford or you can achieve.

And now stay away from this thread, i can speak on behalf of marco. Nobody wants your nonsense and nobody wants to listen to the same old bitter postings. And when others disagree with you, you cry for admins to help you while on the other hand you hate forums because they banned your for "telling the truth"

Go play and attack Gho supporters or something, i mean didnt you advise peple to

Not go to Gho because he is unproven?

And now with all the proof you jump on threads like this one here, only for the sake of repeating your same bullcrap all the time.

For the record, nobody takes you seriously anymore because if you read one statement from you, you know the all.

And now LEAVE THIS THREAD ON BEHALF OF MARCO or I will call for the admins




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topcat611

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31.12.2012, 22:07

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

Please Obamaman spare me I know how the industry operates with your 3 posts to date.

6000+ grafts is a mega session.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

topcat611

E-mail

31.12.2012, 22:08

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» Please Obamaman spare me I know how the industry operates with your 3 posts
» to date and your hopes to have the thread locked.
»
» 6000+ grafts is a mega session.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

topcat611

E-mail

31.12.2012, 22:11

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

Obamaman had 3 posts and HelloWorld has 2 posts, wake up guys. The thread will soon be locked.



topcat611 has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
topcat611 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

---
I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Obamaman

31.12.2012, 22:30

@ topcat611

Is this marco?

» Obamaman had 3 posts and HelloWorld has 2 posts, wake up guys. The thread
» will soon be locked.

Is that your excuse if someone disagrees with your stupid statements. Wake up everybody HATES you




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Wylie

01.01.2013, 02:22

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

Obamaman, STFU, you are the one on this thread no one wants to listen to, save your wrath for somewhere else.

What is up with these horrible cases of necrosis I'm seeing? Even going to the hacks I visited in the 90's I have not seen this happen until recently, I don't know who marco is but he has my sympathy, it looks like he peeled off one of the scabs before it fell off, unlike this other documented case, where the victim waited months for his scabs to fall off:

Hans Wiemann

This is just terrible to see happen, I hope there is something that can be done to minimize the damage in both of these people.




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G-MAN13

01.01.2013, 03:10

@ Wylie

Is this marco?

I was going 2 make a surgery with dr.Rahal, but now i dont know what to think...
May be a poor Marco is just a bad exception????




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HelloWorld

01.01.2013, 04:21

@ G-MAN13

Is this marco?

» I was going 2 make a surgery with dr.Rahal, but now i dont know what to
» think...
» May be a poor Marco is just a bad exception????

Not worth arguing back and fourth. I have lurked this forum for a long time and post on other forums. I know when topcat posts without even looking at the name because it is the SAME JUNK EVERY TIME.

To the topic, I remember the original thread and it seemed like people in the know were hushed on the subject due to pending litigation. Apparently that is not the case as that blog posts claims Rahal never even followed up or returned calls? How can that be? If so, this man should have ZERO business for the rest of his "career". Mistakes happen but this entire thing seems shady. I think it is time for someone "in the know" to best explain the series of events. I feel for Marco a lot, no one deserves to be bald, let alone scarred for life when trying to "fix" yourself. It isn't the end of the world for him (I hope), but to have something like that happen must be devastating. I guess deserves got nothin' to do with it, right?




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hairdar

01.01.2013, 04:32

@ G-MAN13

Is this marco?

» I was going 2 make a surgery with dr.Rahal, but now i dont know what to
» think...
» May be a poor Marco is just a bad exception????

Worst case scenario? Yes

I'd wait to see if the Dr has his patients back or not. If he can repair and/or adequately compensate Marco he's one of the good guys believe it or not.

Many Docs rely on weasel worded legal documents in these cases and would rather retain highly paid legal teams than look after their most vulnerable patients.

Wait and see which way this goes I'd say.




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danko

01.01.2013, 05:16

@ hairdar

Is this marco?

hairsite should not close this thread



doc rahal should now show honesty and give marco that, what marco was offered
and he is able to do that/he wont get poor/ even if he needs help from other docs

HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS MENTAL HEALTH AND FUTURE NOW
THIS DEFINES A GOOD DOC/THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF A GOOD DOC
WHAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG

but that is what i dont like
such cases disappear in forums and that is no help for marco

sorry for my english

it brokes my heart for marco
there is a partial solution




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danko

01.01.2013, 05:21

@ hairdar

Is this marco?

» » I was going 2 make a surgery with dr.Rahal, but now i dont know what to
» » think...
» » May be a poor Marco is just a bad exception????
»
» Worst case scenario? Yes
»
» I'd wait to see if the Dr has his patients back or not. If he can repair
» and/or adequately compensate Marco he's one of the good guys believe it or
» not.
»
» Many Docs rely on weasel worded legal documents in these cases and would
» rather retain highly paid legal teams than look after their most vulnerable
» patients.
»
» Wait and see which way this goes I'd say.




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Obamaman

01.01.2013, 06:40

@ danko

Is this marco?

So who here is taking the step and gives marco an REAL advise?

I will do it, Marco pal, if you still read here, then one thing is for sure VISIT GHO

Thats all i am saying

Dont go for FUE or FUT again and dont listen to what topcat is saying (pro bono leech) now you have o minimize the damage and HST is your answer




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hairlove

U.S.A,
01.01.2013, 13:45

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

» So who here is taking the step and gives marco an REAL advise?
»
» I will do it, Marco pal, if you still read here, then one thing is for sure
» VISIT GHO
»
» Thats all i am saying
»
» Dont go for FUE or FUT again and dont listen to what topcat is saying (pro
» bono leech) now you have o minimize the damage and HST is your answer

lets avoid getting personel here and lets not jump to advicing him to go to particular doctor but focus on his present situation and asking the clinic who did this to show some empathy to his situation and own responsibility.Its only ethical thing to do for the clinic.



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cal

01.01.2013, 15:58

@ hairlove

Is this marco?

(Hairsite, please kick the Gho shills off this this thread.)



This is shocking. I had a pretty bad feeling when Marco showed the pics that looked like necrotic skin but I didn't think it would be this bad when it all finished healing up.



My first offhand thought would be to investigate what might be done for a burn victim with scalp scarring. It's not the same situation but it seems more applicable than the field of HT work at this point.

Perhaps some type of skin grafting could eventually be done. It wouldn't be hair but it would be something. I don't know what the options are for this right now but that kind of medicine has been steadily advancing these last couple of decades.



If the doc doesn't try to help then he is really sc_um. Bad results are one thing, but cutting off contact as soon as it happens is something else. He oughtta be paying out of pocket to do anything that can be done for Marco. This wasn't just a "bad growth", it was real disfigurement.

If the doc knew the skin was going necrotic, and kept telling the patient that it was fine . . . I smell some possible legal leverage for Marco there. He probably won't be able to get the doc for the original problem, but maybe he could get the doc for worsening the problem by willfully deceiving him about the fact that it needed immediate treatment.



This is really sad. It's just awful.


:crying:




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johndoe888

01.01.2013, 17:17

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

Helloworld and obamaman,

I am shocked that this thread turned out to be an attack on topcat. These boards are created for information and experiences to be documented and shared. Then many different angles and opinions are formulated and shared freely for constructive criticism. A lot of the board members including myself were anxiously waiting for updates on Marcos progression until out of no where he stopped posting. I think topcat was spot on with his assessment of Marco given the limited info any of us know on his status.If you 2 are as concerned and upset about what is happening with marco as you say you are: redirect your aggression on the doc who did this, or help get marcos story out so people know this "Necrosis" is a very real potential side effect when getting an HT.

Instead of "nobody likes you!, and everybody hates you!" LOL grow up!




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Wylie

01.01.2013, 17:44

@ cal

Is this marco?

» (Hairsite, please kick the Gho shills off this this thread.)

Agreed.

Back on topic

Legal damages from this result may or may not be forthcoming, I don't think financial compensation is marco's first concern right now, I re-read his original (now locked) post and learned a few things:

1) He is a successful CEO and scientist.
2) He researched this surgery like a scientist would, and I'm not sure I've ever seen such thorough research before. Have a look at his journal for an example.

While it seems to be too much surgery too soon, marco himself wanted this surgery completed in as little time as possible (he stated as much) and I don't know if this approach that marco took was itself unconventional, but he clearly had some control over it, and this approach could be something that Dr. Rahal does not usually follow. So the question of liability for this outcome could be subject to much finger pointing at present, I'm not sure. It also sounds as if the aftercare was neglected, which certainly reflects poorly on this clinic.




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HelloWorld

01.01.2013, 18:07

@ johndoe888

Is this marco?

» Helloworld and obamaman,
»
» I am shocked that this thread turned out to be an attack on topcat. These
» boards are created for information and experiences to be documented and
» shared. Then many different angles and opinions are formulated and shared
» freely for constructive criticism. A lot of the board members including
» myself were anxiously waiting for updates on Marcos progression until out
» of no where he stopped posting. I think topcat was spot on with his
» assessment of Marco given the limited info any of us know on his status.If
» you 2 are as concerned and upset about what is happening with marco as you
» say you are: redirect your aggression on the doc who did this, or help get
» marcos story out so people know this "Necrosis" is a very real potential
» side effect when getting an HT.
»
» Instead of "nobody likes you!, and everybody hates you!" LOL grow up!

So you dedicated an entire post trying to be a saintly voice of reason, accomplishing exactly the opposite of your intent, further removing the topic from marco to "us". Read topcats post and then you claim he was on target? Half his post is a rant targeted at young people getting hair transplants which marco is not, like ALL OF TOPCATS drivel. That is the POINT.

The "site admin" can do whatever the hell they please, I just find it comical as I've never seen a site where members demand an admin remove this post or that post. Yet you look around here and find people burning their own heads with random chemicals from china, allowing a spook doc to claim he has the cure for hairloss in "dr. nigam", and so fourth. You animals are going to create another marco, that is the point.

Who cares what you were anxiously awaiting. Marco in the original thread made it clear he wasn't interested in explaining to you the full extent of what happened and left with much speculation. That was his choice. No one knows what happened and the irony in you coming here to slap me and another poster on the wrist for telling topcat to kick dirt with his repeated nonsense that does not apply at all to marco or anyone else is again, comical.




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Obamaman

01.01.2013, 18:20

@ HelloWorld

Is this marco?

I fully agree. Its pathetic how some people here react. The moment the clinic aka Dr Rahal cut of the discussion with the patient, the moment his clinic jumped on the black list.

Really cal, Gho shills should be banned? Tsssssssskkk you are one heck of a ************** thats for sure, you rather would see marco getting more damage then seeing him getting a HSt which works and therefore destroy your Gho hatred because you dont have the money for an HST.

Regarding topcat, he is the biggest player in kicking dirt into others eyes and using them for his agenda. Thats his scheme. He uses marcos case for his "500 Grafts pro bono" scheme but strangely cal has no problem with that.

The only helpful thing is in fact Gho, thats the end of the story.

And yes guys like topcat and cal produce future victims like marco. They do it.

And yes people rubbing chemicals on their heads and get applause from cowards like cal. People go to a sc_am artist like Dr Nigam and cal applaudes.




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HelloWorld

01.01.2013, 19:14

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

» I fully agree. Its pathetic how some people here react. The moment the
» clinic aka Dr Rahal cut of the discussion with the patient, the moment his
» clinic jumped on the black list.
»
» Really cal, Gho shills should be banned? Tsssssssskkk you are one heck of a
» ************** thats for sure, you rather would see marco getting more
» damage then seeing him getting a HSt which works and therefore destroy your
» Gho hatred because you dont have the money for an HST.
»
» Regarding topcat, he is the biggest player in kicking dirt into others eyes
» and using them for his agenda. Thats his scheme. He uses marcos case for
» his "500 Grafts pro bono" scheme but strangely cal has no problem with
» that.
»
» The only helpful thing is in fact Gho, thats the end of the story.
»
» And yes guys like topcat and cal produce future victims like marco. They do
» it.
»
» And yes people rubbing chemicals on their heads and get applause from
» cowards like cal. People go to a sc_am artist like Dr Nigam and cal
» applaudes.

What is the official word on how this necrosis gets started? I looked at the other blog link to another victim provided in this thread and what a damn mess. Losing your hair isn't the worst that can happen folks. What is alarming to me is the man only had a consultation with the "doctor" the morning of the surgery. Why is this happening to some people, in medical terms? And once it gets started is there absolutely nothing that can be done, hence why the "doctors" turn a blind eye?




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Obamaman

01.01.2013, 20:36

@ HelloWorld

Is this marco?

They turn or can turn a blindeye because they dont have to fear consequences. Just take a look here.

people like topcat or cal are playing white knights for them. Topcat doesnt care about marco as a person, all he cares is "Ohhh now i can repeat my same old story about small sessions again and i get attention"

And when people finally call him out on this he acts like a moron.

Another point is, WHY is marcos thread locked here in this "consumer information" forum?

Just for the record, marco now has 4 instead of one problem

1) Necrose tissue
2) depleted donor
3) scar tissue from FUT
4) possible baldness going further

And now tell me my dear fellas HOW if not with Gho could he adress all those problems? Hmmm any ideas? And dont come with pro Bono topcat work.

Necrotic tissue needs extra care taking now, in terms of grafts. Is this possible with traditional transplants? NO NEVER POSSIBLE. With Body hair? NOPE its already hard to get body hair to grow on normal balding zones, how hard is it to get it grow on very extensive scar tissue

Depleted donor. What can he do? He is forced to at least EXPAND his donor. How is this manageable? Three letters.

Scar tissue from FUT. Well thats a secondary problem right now. But it remains

Possible baldness going further. Only manageable with expanded donor

But i guess topcat will now repeat

"Have you had your Gho thingy? Have you ever had a transplant? Gho is unproven"

I can answer that Ghos HST is explicitely and foremost for burn victims. For us as a cosmetical procedure its secondary.

I wonder why everyone is so silent right now and nobody from the old pranksters is playing the " You are Stevie Dee" card.

I guess the necrosis case with forum lockdown and the deleted Armani threads have make even the dumbest shills here uncomfortable. It must be very taugh that the all side hated Gho seems to be the only honest surgeon around these days.




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04.01.2013, 20:30

@ levrais

Is this marco?

Dr Rahal has asked me to post a response.

Hair transplants are a surgical procedure that carry some risks. Central necrosis is one of those risks.

In any type of surgery, including hair transplants, there are technical/medical variables and then there are the patient physiological variables such as healing ability, circulation, smoking etc.

Marco’s case is the only one we have encountered in 17 years of practice. We have used the same technique on thousands and thousands of patients with a great outcome. It was not a high dense packing case as we had covered quite a large area. It may also be possible that had a smaller session been done, the outcome may have been the same.

We completely empathize with Marco and hope for the best outcome. This is understandably frustrating for both parties. Unfortunately it happened and Dr Rahal has been here and will continue to be here for Marco as needed.

Marco and Dr Rahal had been in regular phone call/email discussion (initially on weekly basis) for many months post surgery. Marco has access to Dr Rahal’s email and private contact numbers. We have not abandoned Marco, nor do we shy away from helping him getting through this.




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diamond6

04.01.2013, 21:57

@ Wylie

Is this marco?

» Obamaman, STFU, you are the one on this thread no one wants to listen to,
» save your wrath for somewhere else.
»
» What is up with these horrible cases of necrosis I'm seeing? Even going to
» the hacks I visited in the 90's I have not seen this happen until recently,
» I don't know who marco is but he has my sympathy, it looks like he peeled
» off one of the scabs before it fell off, unlike this other documented case,
» where the victim waited months for his scabs to fall off:
»
» Hans Wiemann
»
» This is just terrible to see happen, I hope there is something that can be
» done to minimize the damage in both of these people.


I agree. All obamaman does is promote a clinic that is not proven. Topcatt

& I have been around this block a whole lot more than most. Now I think we

should all get advice as to see how to help Marco. I suggested my Doctor

based on my experience. Having 5 Doctors I think I know something about

this Industry. This sort of thing should not be happening in this day & Age

but this is only one case that is on display. Many clinics have problems

that we just do not see. Remember one thing, if there were a simple

solution for this problem these sites would no longer be needed. Common

sense. Even the toupee shops would not be in business. Only the great

results mostly end up on these sites because of sponsorship. There are

Arfys, Marcos & many others out there that nobody knows about. A lot of

B.S. in an industry that is money motivated. Clinics prey on victims who

are desperate for a fix and many are incompetent. Buyer Beware since it is

your head that everybody sees. There is a reason for that Legal Disclaimer

you sign. It is to protect the guilty. Tough luck for the client. Sad.




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danko

05.01.2013, 04:10

@ diamond6

Is this marco?

<edited - off topic>




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hairlove

U.S.A,
05.01.2013, 04:15

@ danko

Is this marco?

thank you very much for your response mattj.

is it possible for the forum to know in what ways do you propose to help marco?

also was it possible that the necrosis could have been recognised at an earlier stage and limited?



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commanderfink

05.01.2013, 23:51

@ hairlove

Is this marco?

Mattj, what does the clinic plan to do to treat future necrosis cases if they occur.

How come nitro gel wasn't given?




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rev

your nightmares,
07.01.2013, 00:51

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

» I will do it, Marco pal, if you still read here, then one thing is for sure
» VISIT GHO

The names might change (to Obamaman and Helloworld), but the tactics remain the same. You insulted a rational poster (topcat), and turned a veteran - and well respected - posters mishap into an opportunity to shill Ghos clinic. You should be ashamed of yourself. Ashamed.




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your nightmares,
07.01.2013, 00:54

@ Obamaman

Is this marco?

I was going to tell you to go fak yourself, but than I realized that low-life shills -- such as yourself -- breed asexually, and you have enough aliases on this forum already.

» I fully agree. Its pathetic how some people here react. The moment the
» clinic aka Dr Rahal cut of the discussion with the patient, the moment his

» clinic jumped on the black list.
»
» Really cal, Gho shills should be banned? Tsssssssskkk you are one heck of a
» ************** thats for sure, you rather would see marco getting more
» damage then seeing him getting a HSt which works and therefore destroy your
» Gho hatred because you dont have the money for an HST.
»
» Regarding topcat, he is the biggest player in kicking dirt into others eyes
» and using them for his agenda. Thats his scheme. He uses marcos case for
» his "500 Grafts pro bono" scheme but strangely cal has no problem with
» that.
»
» The only helpful thing is in fact Gho, thats the end of the story.
»
» And yes guys like topcat and cal produce future victims like marco. They do
» it.
»
» And yes people rubbing chemicals on their heads and get applause from
» cowards like cal. People go to a sc_am artist like Dr Nigam and cal
» applaudes.




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cal

08.01.2013, 06:12

@ rev

Is this marco?

Obamaman said:

Really cal, Gho shills should be banned? Tsssssssskkk you are one heck of a ************** thats for sure, you rather would see marco getting more damage then seeing him getting a HSt which works and therefore destroy your Gho hatred because you dont have the money for an HST.

People go to a sc_am artist like Dr Nigam and cal applaudes.




Don't make up lies about me.




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hairdar

16.05.2013, 18:31

@ mattj

Is this marco?

Hi Mattj,

Just wondering if you've made any progress with Marco's case since early January ?

Has he had any further surgeries ? thank you !




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28.05.2013, 01:30

@ hairdar

Is this marco?

Originally Posted by hairdar

Hi Mattj,

Just wondering if you've made any progress with Marco's case since early January ?

Has he had any further surgeries ? thank you !


I am sure Marco will update the board if he chooses to.

We are in contact with Dr. Rahal's clinic on a regular basis. If there are any news or updates, rest assured it will be posted here immediately.

If you see no new post on this thread, it means there is simply nothing to report.




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28.05.2013, 04:01

@ HairSite

Is this marco?

Ok, thanks Hairsite. Hopefully Marco hanging in there if he's monitoring the thread.




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