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HairToday

29.03.2011, 05:03
 

best doc out there.. (Hair Transplant)

hi folks - who are the most reputed docs out there for hair transplant irrespective of cost location.

I am planning to get an HT procedure done. I've heard names like woods, armani and hosson to name a few.

thanks,
gone tomorrow




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Freddie555

29.03.2011, 05:33

@ HairToday

best doc out there..

» hi folks - who are the most reputed docs out there for hair transplant
» irrespective of cost location.
»
» I am planning to get an HT procedure done. I've heard names like woods,
» armani and hosson to name a few.
»
» thanks,
» gone tomorrow


How bald are you ? Norwood level. Could you post your pics before all else to get an objective non-biased opinion. HT surgeons will always tell you that you need a transplant so beware.

If your baldness is anything over Norwood 4, forget it.

Also you have to be willing to take propecia/avodart for life after a transplant otherwise your existing hair will fall out and you will look like a freak. Do not get a transplant unless you are willing to commit to doing so.

I've personally never had a transplant but Dr. Woods is pretty respectable. Hasson & Wong do good transplants but they still have not dropped the bad habit of doing strip transplants. Do not ever get a strip transplant, only FUE. Armani's clinic launched a lawsuit against one bloke here who was an unsatisfied customer so whatever. The guy was suicidal and depressed and I can't imagine a lawsuit did him any good. Lord knows where he is now. But supposedly his work on the hair line is considered good.

So tread carefully, this is a minefield.

I personally like Dr. Woods of Australia (who puts great effort into refining his technique), Dr. Kesser of Turkey (though i've only seen a handful of his excellent work - uses a hand punch tool he developed which seems to yield good results) and Dr. A of India (who is an honest doc willing to take on hopeless hair transplant disaster cases).




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silversurfer007

29.03.2011, 05:40

@ Freddie555

best doc out there..

Cole, Bisanga, Wolf, Feriduni, Rose, Mwamba, Epstein...




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silversurfer007

29.03.2011, 05:41

@ silversurfer007

best doc out there..

» Cole, Bisanga, Wolf, Feriduni, Rose, Mwamba, Epstein...
Woods, Hasson and Wong take out Armani from your list IMHO




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
30.03.2011, 04:08

@ HairToday

best doc out there..

Here are a few FUE hairlines from my doc of choice, Dr. Umar in Cali:

Head hair FUE:
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Head hair FUE buzzed short:
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Hybrid hairline using head-hair, body and beard:
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Head hair FUE:
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This is my "repair" using leg hair grafts:
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All these cases and more are documented extensively on video here with before/after shots:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar

Happy growing to you!
:-D



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At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

Pats205

30.03.2011, 15:10

@ HairToday

best doc out there..

Hairtoday,

I have had multiple procedures with the Alvi Armani clinic to restore my entire head of hair from front to back. I had everything done with great success. You can read through my story as well as seeing videos of my result here: http://mystorypats205.blogspot.com/

Here are some additional before and after photos from the Alvi Armani clinic. Also, please do not hesitate to check out our website: www.alviarmani.com

Alvi Armani Before / After Results


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Alvi Armani Hairlines


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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
31.03.2011, 02:55

@ Pats205

best doc out there..

Dude you are just a paid shill for armani, why they let you post here is unknown




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Omar Little

31.03.2011, 03:06

@ HanginInThere

best doc out there..

I would go with Umar, no doubt.




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diamond6

31.03.2011, 03:42

@ Omar Little

best doc out there..

» I would go with Umar, no doubt.

Yeah Just like the 4 French guys did. What about them???




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HairSite

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31.03.2011, 03:57

@ diamond6

best doc out there..

» » I would go with Umar, no doubt.
»
» Yeah Just like the 4 French guys did. What about them???

And why do you think they wouldn't sign a consent form to let Dr. Umar talk about their case?




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diamond6

31.03.2011, 08:47

@ HairSite

best doc out there..

» » » I would go with Umar, no doubt.
» »
» » Yeah Just like the 4 French guys did. What about them???
»
» And why do you think they wouldn't sign a consent form to let Dr. Umar talk
» about their case?

This Doctor has done this in the past hairsite. It was known that another patient had his chest severely scarred by Dr. Umar. Facts have a way of leaking out.




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Freddie555

31.03.2011, 08:55

@ diamond6

best doc out there..

To be fair the doc needs a chance to defend himself. No doc will have a perfect track record either.

But f&ck the trend of launching lawsuits to shut unsatisfied clients up.




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topcat611

E-mail

31.03.2011, 13:58

@ Freddie555

best doc out there..

It is a little offensive to the forum members who have been here well over 10 years and know very well the history of many of the doctors that post here along with the attitudes they have had in the past when things don’t go well and how those patients were treated.

Why would it seem unusual for those same forum members to ask questions when we see history repeating itself again. We should all be working towards truth and honesty as this is what is going to benefit both the patient and the reputable clinics.

There should be no shame in the occasional result that doesn’t go quite as planned. But at least have the common decency to treat the patient with respect.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
31.03.2011, 15:46

@ topcat611

best doc out there..

Topcat,

That French guy was a grifter.
Blackmailing a doctor for hair?
Pathetic.

I have a feeling this has happened many times to other good docs as well.
Facts do indeed have a way of coming out.
Sometimes on video!

Are you standing with the grifters after seeing the patient's happy video?
The guy was blackmailing the good doc for free work.

Did you see the new thread?
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-82114-page-0-category-2-order-last_answer.html

I have yet to read a retraction from you after jumping to conclusions.
One would think it's the right thing to do.
Put your personal feelings or agenda aside for a second and acknowledge the truth.
You claim that you are here to find and expose truth, well it has arrived.
Saying nothing, now reflects very poorly on your quest, imo.

Can got your tongue old friend?
Hopefully you didn't "grift" your doc for your free work.
Kidding. Relax.

Don't forget, out of compassion I voted for you to get free work and now you are going after my clinic of choice at every opportunity, facts be damned.
If you ruin his honest business, will you lobby for me to get some free work with your doc?

Looking forward to seeing your progress.
And if I like what I see, I'll say so proudly as I had a small part in getting you there.

Happy growing.



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

HairSite

Homepage E-mail

31.03.2011, 15:48

@ diamond6

best doc out there..

» » » » I would go with Umar, no doubt.
» » »
» » » Yeah Just like the 4 French guys did. What about them???
» »
» » And why do you think they wouldn't sign a consent form to let Dr. Umar
» talk
» » about their case?
»
» This Doctor has done this in the past hairsite. It was known that another
» patient had his chest severely scarred by Dr. Umar. Facts have a way of
» leaking out.

Read my question again. Your reply seems to suggest that because the doctor does not have a perfect record, that 's why the patient refuses to let his doctor speak. Makes no sense at all.

Every doctor has his share of unhappy patients, whether justified or not.

The forum can sometimes be a breeding ground for misinformation. Many people read one or two posts and conclude that they have all the facts in front of them. Fact or fiction, only the doctor and his patient know.




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=====================================
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3. Privacy Statement & Terms of Use

topcat611

E-mail

31.03.2011, 17:21

@ HairSite

best doc out there..

What am I exactly suppose to retract. That I asked Hairsite to post a copy of the consent forms so we could try and understand why the patient would not sign them. I am for posting the truth regardless of if it is good or bad. I asked a simple question so that we can all learn.

If other posters had a chance to review the consent forms and there didn’t seem to be a problem then of course the onus is on the patient to explain further. But the clinic posted their version of events anyway. Why were the consent forms needed to begin with, so of course now I ask that question.
I have been asking logical questions for well over 10 years, it’s not something that just all of sudden started happening.

Do I stand with hair grifters? What kind of question is that? I didn’t even know there was such a thing as a hair grifter. A person that went around trying to squeeze doctors for free work. Honestly its news to me. I don’t even know this patient and only know bits and pieces of his experience from what was posted to the forum for a few short moments.

Sometimes you make it sound like what you wrote about me that I have some kind of axe to girnd. Just look at my history I have been questioning what I see by so many different doctors and clinics over the years that I just don’t understand how you can honestly believe this to be true. And it was long before the Derm clinic ever came into being.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Stevie.Dee

31.03.2011, 17:51

@ topcat611

best doc out there..

I have a simple answer which will fit every NW scale from 1 to 7 and beyond, which doc really is the best.

The best doc is the person who

.......- tries the best to get something like infinite donor to be suitable for all patients.....-

Everything else is just well compromise between density, hairline and propecia nothing more.

You guys should ask yourself one question, if some docs could get very good results with the limited donor hair you have, how amazing would the results be if they dont have to fear a depleating donor area?

Thats the thing, nothing more and nothing less, i dont really care for "amazing" illusions because everytime i see them, there is something stick to them which makes the best illusion just unimportant, and thats depleated donor.

Everything else should be absolutely unimportant. Because even if you are a NW4 by now and you would get a hairtransplant with infinite donor, well you would keep your youthful hairline and you would have only fill your vertex area one time again and you are finished until the rest of your life even without medication.

So hereby i will call out every single HT Doc out there to get things rolling in regards to infinite donor. I personally will step aside from my personal Gho Hating right now and give his technique the benefit of the doubt and ask HT docs to prove or disprove this technique.

Why am i asking out? For one reason, Gho is not very good with hairlines, but some docs here are, so everyone would win

1) The patient because hairloss would finally be a thing of the past (at least bald areas)
2) Gho because people believe him
3) HT docs because they can post more and more and more nice pictures from perfect cases

Eben Hairsite as a Portal for hairloss suffering people should support this. Oh before i forget about it, i have to give some Kudos to jotronic (i think he was the guy with H&W) because he as one of the few clinic reps had the guts to step into the HM sub forum here and gave credits to plucking hairs with Acell, i know he had stated that its a long way but he believes in the potential. I say as a strip and FUT hater " Thanks a lot for sharing your honest opinion" that is really rare these days.

So Dear HT Docs, the clock is ticking, choose your destiny (density) cause i will be the first in line at some doc who can create a nice frontal area and guarantees infinite donor. Everything else i am not interested




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topcat611

E-mail

31.03.2011, 18:42

@ Stevie.Dee

best doc out there..

Stevie Dee, we are all behind you 100% but some of us would like a solution now. So hopefully you can also understand our position.



topcat611 has 1 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
topcat611 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO

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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
31.03.2011, 18:45

@ topcat611

best doc out there..

Topcat,

If I had the time, I could compile a very convincing list of posts from you smearing Dr. Umar on multiple forums while promoting the clinic who worked on you for free. You post on nearly every Umar thread. What's with that?

What is your motivation?
I suspect you are bitter about something.
Perhaps Dr. Umar wouldn't give you free work or a discount so you are taking it out on him like the French guy? Who knows.

As you say, the truth always comes out eventually.
Deny, deny, deny.
Yeah, you're just a neutral source of invaluable information. Ok.

So let me get this straight:
You made some terrible, heartbreaking decisions about your own transplant.
Then you entered a contest to get free repair work.
Now you consistently attempt to smear a competing clinic while praising your "free" clinic before your repair has even grown out.

Is that about right?
Who are you trying to fool here, me or yourself?

Good luck with that.
:-P



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

Franklin

31.03.2011, 18:56

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there..

Been here over 10 years. Seen complaints from all docs talked about here. Bottom line there is allways 2 sides to every story! No one should judge just on words alone.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
31.03.2011, 19:16

@ Franklin

best doc out there..

» Been here over 10 years. Seen complaints from all docs talked about here.
» Bottom line there is allways 2 sides to every story! No one should judge
» just on words alone.

Agreed Franklin.

Words alone don't always cut it.
That is why the French guy's video is so telling.

I've been around these forums about 6 years.
And I've seen some awful behavior from certain posters who clearly have agendas against certain clinics, even if they show good results with happy patients who are willing to meet up.

Go after the butchers folks.
Not the docs who repair bad HT work day in and day out without boasting about who's work they keep repairing.

Peace.



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

topcat611

E-mail

31.03.2011, 20:30

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there..

I have never asked a clinic for free work in my life and I have no idea where you are getting this. I received one pro bono surgery and have since paid for my second surgery and plan on paying for any additional surgeries. I in fact gave up half of the pro bono offer so that two other patients could be helped, scarred5 and zionaxel. I didn’t have to do this nor was it expected of me. But I felt a moral obligation to do the right thing just as I feel a moral obligation to post only what I know as the truth.

I seldom praise BHR patients and probably have done so only a handful of times. I actually make every effort not to post complimentary comments to their results. But I do admit sometimes in the past when I see an extremely natural looking hairline I have posted a comment. But as I have stated over all it has been few.

I post to many threads and I certainly do not post to every Dr Umar thread that also is completely false. I do have a tendency to post to threads where patients complain as personally it does bother me that patients are still having issues with all the information that is now available.
As I keep saying I have posted for at least 10 years before ever even going to BHR.

Regardless of if I am posting on a Bazan, Hitzig, Gho, Cooley or whoever thread, I ask logical questions and I am always civil. And I am not bitter about anything.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
31.03.2011, 23:07

@ topcat611

best doc out there...

Topcat,

We'll simply have to agree to disagree about your posting "habits".
Moving forward, there are plenty of posts of yours I can quote if need be to illustrate my point.
That's the beauty of these forums.

But for you to deny that you've been "dogging" Dr. Umar (for whatever reason) is laughable, imo.
Do you do this to other honest docs "for sport" as well? Perhaps.

All this aside, I truly hope to see a great result from your repair case soon.
I wouldn't wish a poor result on anyone from any clinic.

But there's no need to "dog" honest docs who post tons of videos, pics and have many happy patients willing to meet in person.

Focus your energy on the butchers, not the fixers.



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

Atticus

01.04.2011, 00:41

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

» Topcat,
»
» We'll simply have to agree to disagree about your posting "habits".
» Moving forward, there are plenty of posts of yours I can quote if need be
» to illustrate my point.
» That's the beauty of these forums.
»
» But for you to deny that you've been "dogging" Dr. Umar (for whatever
» reason) is laughable, imo.
» Do you do this to other honest docs "for sport" as well? Perhaps.
»
» All this aside, I truly hope to see a great result from your repair case
» soon.
» I wouldn't wish a poor result on anyone from any clinic.
»
» But there's no need to "dog" honest docs who post tons of videos, pics and
» have many happy patients willing to meet in person.
»
» Focus your energy on the butchers, not the fixers.

Even in the face of video evidence, Topcat stands by his words and the hair grifters. For him to deny dogging Dr. Umar is laughable. In fact, he and some of his buddies have accused me of being a paid shill for Dr. Umar. Why? Because shortly after my awesome hairline HT from Dr. Umar, I posted that Dr. Umar extracted 100 extra grafts (it's hard to keep track of those tiny little things), and rather than throw away precious grafts, he implanted them into my sweet hairline. They turned this into "Atticus" shills for free hair grafts! WTF?) (I had a super small hairline job done, where would I put all these free grafts?)When I asked them to provide evidence of this or shut up, they continued to spread these defamatory lies. It would be like me claiming Topcat is a rapist, with absolutely no evidence. Folks, if you make claims, be ready to make sure they are true, and be ready to back them up!

So, Topcats of the world, no I will not stop recommending my Doctor. He does great work, and I have not had work done by any other HT docs. So yes, I will freely recommend him.

Thanks!

Atticus




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topcat611

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01.04.2011, 03:02

@ Atticus

best doc out there...

Where exactly are you getting all of this as I have never posted the comment that you claim.

Even with this French patient where exactly did I attack anyone in my 2 posts. In one post I asked Hairsite if he could post the consent forms and on the original thread I wrote that I was sorry that the patient had a bad experience.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Stevie.Dee

01.04.2011, 10:21

@ topcat611

best doc out there...

Hey topcat

yeah i agree that some people want it now. But with infinite donor as a standard, ven all the repair cases would be "repaired". Thats my whole point ^^




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silversurfer007

01.04.2011, 17:18

@ Stevie.Dee

best doc out there...

I agree with topcat. So what if he speaks his mind about Umar. SFSG just because you are Umar's poster boy doesn't mean he has an outstanding record and you should be aware of that.




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ejj

01.04.2011, 18:28

@ silversurfer007

best doc out there...

this thread does not sit comfortably with me any more , Im all for patients showcasing there results its expected , but to continue with attacks against a particular poster creates an uneasy feeling that there is more to the attacks than meets the eye !

I note the poster who is attacked has a disclaimer stating he recieved a pro bono procedure and also discloses the fact that the following procedure was fully paid for ! .. the attacks against this poster make me wonder how or in what way those posters are affilliated with the Dr other than just being past happy patients , I dont think this does the Dr any favours at all as im left thinking what is the agenda ? What is there that we dont know ?? why be so hostile towards someone asking genuine qs` ??? ... what is worrying is that no where in this thread has the poster stated anything he is being accused of !!! very strange !! a prior poster states quote " We will have to agree to disagree " and then states " moving forward " but then continues the personal attack !! as an outsider I like the Drs work I think he is one of the good guys and helps a lot of repair patients( i would definantly consider the Dr myself and am doing ! ) , I think past patients should post there experience either good or bad , but to take it further suggests some sort of `role` for and on behalf of that particular Dr /clinic

Perhaps someone will enlighten me !

ejj




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topcat611

E-mail

01.04.2011, 23:54

@ ejj

best doc out there...

As I have always stated in the past I post for only two reasons to learn and to help others. Not everyone is going to agree with my point of view nor do I expect them to agree as it is only posted for consideration. I don’t care for strip, drills, large fue tools, poor patient care, large bht/beard hair sessions, charging patients to experiment on them, attacking unhappy patients, white dot scarring, shot gun scarring I mean it’s a long list. I could have easily named clinics in the past but the facts are I never have as it’s up to each prospective patient to learn on their own. I just like to point out what to look for when researching.

As I have stated I gave up half my pro bono offer so two others could be helped. I don’t come on to the forums as say hey, look what I did, but when someone makes accusations I am forced to point that fact out. I never once mentioned that one of those patients was a former patient of the Derm clinic up until now because I have absolutely no reason to do this, for what? It doesn’t benefit me in anyway. I was just trying to show this person the same compassion I would hope someone would show me if I was in there shoes. For others to just starting making things up, doesn’t make much sense to me. But do whatever you feel is right.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
02.04.2011, 04:51

@ ejj

best doc out there...

ejj,

I have no financial incentive to post on these forums.

But I will not stand by and see nefarious characters with agendas lamely attempt to cause the clinic who "repaired" me in a day using no head hair whatsoever, die by 1000 cuts on the internet. Most of these folks have been discredited and have disappeared into the cyber void. Some post for years, present themselves as experts, post 1000s of times on multiple forums and have never even had an HT themselves. Wtf?

I'm just fiercely loyal to my third and hopefully final HT doc.

Topcat and I have been going back and forth about this for some time now. His behavior has become worse since winning that free HT contest. And I voted for him out of compassion and because he asked me to, fine. He is just as protective to his clinic of choice and that's cool by me. The difference is, I don't smear his clinic or posture as some sort of HT guru. For Pete's sake, his repair hasn't even grown out yet and remember, it was his heartbreakingly poor HT decisions that got him to need to enter a repair contest. I feel great compassion for his situation but enough is enough with the games, spreading of doubt and innuendo. It's childish, imo.

If I am to be a "posterboy", so be it. I truly hope once Topscat's results grow out, his result will be "posterboy worthy" too.

However, I made different decisions regarding my hair restoration and repair:

Hairline before BHT:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/aRightsidebefore2.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/aleftsidebefore2.jpg

Hairline one day after BHT:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTday2D.jpg

12 days after BHT:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTday12-1.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTday10-4.jpg

Six months aft BHT:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTjan107a.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTjan107b.jpg

Legs 1 day after BHT:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JMBHTday2I.jpg

Legs 3/4 months later:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/PA290009.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/PA290004.jpg

Wet:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/BHTwGel1.jpg
Back:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/JoshShortHair2.jpg
Top:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/sofarsogoodx/PA290010.jpg

The money shot:
[image]

Grow long and prosper.



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BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

ejj

02.04.2011, 17:30

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

sfsg

Thanks for the photos , the work does look impressive . I think you would agree its a `minefield ` out there when deciding where to go , what technique etc , Im in a position of repair myself and your right when you say its " heartbreakingly poor decisions " that got people like myself into this situation , what I would like to point out though since my first procedure nineteen years ago is that I was "lied to" ... by Drs , by there consultants, by fake photoshopped photos thats how it was back then ,we were told by Drs that they could do things that they knew damn well they couldnt do !! .. so I think its a little harsh to label it as " poor decisions "

Today we have the internet that provides us with plenty of info however we still need people who have experience in this feild to share info , to repeat what I said earlier I dont see anything aggressive about Topcats posts other than Qs ! on another thread a guy named fordham refers to Topcats procedure as a poor result , when its quite clearly labelled as " to show the healing a few weeks in " .. obviously the thread will be updated monthly until there is a result , bit harsh to throw personal insults as my view on this is "its us and them " we got to share the info and help one another

anyway have a good weekend Im off the pub !!

Ejj




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
02.04.2011, 18:33

@ ejj

best doc out there...

Ejj,

In general I agree with your post.
Perhaps I should have left out the word "poor" and stuck with "heartbreaking decisions". Although, we often do make poor decisions regardless of the circumstances. This is true for us all. But this is a guy who fancies himself a valuable source of information. Consider who to take advise from and why.

In 1992 when I had my first strip, I met with three docs and two (or so) patients from each in person before moving forward with a small strip procedure. After that procedure showed good yield, I kept going back.

Was this risky? Sure. But I did the best research I could at 23 years old. I knew enough too see through rosy claims from docs and slick salesmen. And I did not rely on pictures alone.

So far as Topcat, I don't think you've been following his posts on other threads on multiple forums regarding this issue of "dogging" Dr. Umar. This goes WAY beyond this one thread. Imo, he's got an axe to grind and is trying to harm an honest clinic that has been showing results on these boards for six years using very progressive techniques with very few complaints. And to my knowledge, he always informs the patients of the risks involved. Especially with repair patients who have tapped out their traditional donor hair and need to explore alternatives. In addition, Dr. Umar is a HT patient himself. For me, that goes a long way.

Why is Topcat doing this? I'm sure it will surface in time. Dr. U. has patients willing to meet up in person that can refute his conspiracy theories and false claims.

And when Topcat's repair grows out, I will only have positive things to say or little at all. It's not for me to tear down his result. I would get no pleasure out of that.

Enjoy the pubs.
I'm at work on a Saturday.
Goodtimes.



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Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

topcat611

E-mail

02.04.2011, 18:35

@ ejj

best doc out there...

SFSG, as I wrote on the other forum.

Your anger towards me is completely misguided. I know that there is a tremendous amount of money involved in this industry. And like many other industries out there everything is done with a wink and a nod as long as everyone is making money. But what you don’t understand about me is that I really don’t care that much about money. I hold a higher value in people remembering me as someone that helped them and this does not apply just to the world of HT. I’m sure there are plenty of clinics that would like to censor what I have to say. But really if a clinic is honest, they are doing good work and treating their patients very well there is no need to censor anyone.

I have probably written just as much about health and fitness and posted those comments to these same forums in the past. Nobody seems to have a problem with those postings. It should be the same here.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
02.04.2011, 18:41

@ topcat611

best doc out there...

I'm not angry, Topcat.

I just think you are up to something nefarious regarding my clinic of choice. Why can't you just focus on your case and refer patients to clinics you have actual experience with? You are clearly on a crusade. Why? I'm not sure yet.

The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.
Keep posting. Please.

I need to work now. Will return later.



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---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

topcat611

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03.04.2011, 01:44

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

Nefarious that’s a pretty strong word but not as bad as the other guy on this thread who compared me to a rapist. But of course on the internet sometimes the level of intelligence can get pretty low so you just have to grin and bear it.

I think many others can attest to the fact that hair transplantation has had a huge effect on their life. For many it has been very negative due to dishonesty in the industry. Some of us have made bad decisions in the past I will agree, but it was due to the fact that there is so much dishonesty in this industry.

You claim I have some sort of agenda and you are right. My agenda is to help others by pointing out some of what goes on in the industry and trying to help change it. When I bring up points that I know to be fact it is to help others become more aware and not to stir them towards or away from any particular clinic. I have never made a dime from this industry nor do I ever care to as I have no interest. So if anybody is ever thinking about offering me a job in this industry please don’t. I like remaining impartial and posting to help others.

I only post what I believe is truthful and honest advice and I am always open to an intelligent response that has value. I have posted about fue punches that were too large, inexperienced clinics performing fue, mega sessions fue procedures, clinics highlighting cases that were actual failures, poor treatment of patients, deleted posts on forums, experimenting on patients, clinics cost /profit on fue vs strip. It really is a very long list. Nobody has to agree with my views as that is not the point, they are only there to consider. Why you feel this is an attack on you and your clinic of choice is beyond me.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
03.04.2011, 02:52

@ topcat611

best doc out there...

cat611,
"Top" of what exactly? BS?

You are being coy now.
You know the manner in which you've been posting regarding Dr. Umar and his clinic on at least two forums.
I'm hard pressed to find a thread regarding Dr. Umar that you haven't posted on recently.

You know your motivation for this.
It will be clear soon, I'm sure.
These things always "come out in the wash".

Nice try.
;-)



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Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

topcat611

E-mail

03.04.2011, 04:04

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

Well I have no problem with what I posted on the thread regarding the 4 patients from France. I simply stated that I was sorry his experience was not good and thankfully it was a small procedure. I also asked HS if he would post the consent forms to that we could try and figure out why the person did not want to sign them. How this is perceived as an attack of any kind is beyond me, but I can assure that it was not.



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I have been posting for well over 14 years because I feel the need to help others avoid the mistakes I have made and want to help others make better decisions and avoid being deceived. I would be happy to speak to anyone at anytime in person or on the phone. There are some out there that wish I would go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. I believe the small amount of effort I make can make a big difference in someone else's life and it's well worth my time.

Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.


http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/19-Topcat611
http://hairtransplantrepair.blogspot.com/

My experience can be read on my blogspot and a complete pictorial history of my repair procedure is available at:

http://tinyurl.com/y8m256z

Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
03.04.2011, 06:35

@ topcat611

best doc out there...

Cat611,

You keep pretending that our back and forth is about one or two threads here.
But this is about a broad pattern of bad behavior over many months on at least two forums on multiple threads regarding your targeted clinic.

You may be fooling some casual readers by pretending this is about the hair grifters alone, but not folks that have been around these forums for a while following all this.

Good luck with this new coy tactic.

I'm looking forward to a poster "dogging" your clinic of choice and observing your response.
It won't be me, but it will happen someday, I'm sure.

Keep posturing as a neutral beam of sunshine enlightening us all on the ways of HT wisdom.
I'm not buying it anymore. Sorry bro. You do have some good points of advise to offer because of your experiences but your personal vendetta is obvious. The reason is less so. But it is unwarranted nonetheless.

Since the title of this thread is "best doc out there", can you post a video link that compares to this case?

This repair case is the best I've ever seen on the worst of "traditional" HTs:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar#p/u/14/eH0L0ygXgUg

Or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLK-oq2RfQ&feature=channel_video_title

Another:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar#p/u/1/_STSE9W3FzQ

Or a smaller repair like mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_video_title

Fish mouth strip scar from ear to ear GONE using beard hair:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZXDiYHV5w&feature=channel_video_title

Or a more straightforward head-hair FUE case like this:
(Robert Redford look circa 1980 achieved from a Nixonian hairline)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdKC_obIVvM&feature=channel_video_title

My vote is for Dr. Umar but I know there are other honorable, talented docs out there.
Let the videos flow!
Pictures alone just don't cut it anymore.
I wish you such a good result as well.
Keep it growing.
:-D



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

cal

03.04.2011, 08:55

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

If you can't find bad work from a HT clinic then you're not looking hard enough. I've seen bad results from the best of them as well as the worst.

It's a question of averages and ethics.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
03.04.2011, 17:24

@ cal

best doc out there...

» It's a question of averages and ethics.

Agreed cal,

I for one am more than comfortable with my clinic of choice's averages and certainly their ethics based on my case and after meeting with multiple happy fellow patients.

Happy Sunday.
:-D



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

diamond6

03.04.2011, 22:17

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

Have you met any of the unsatisfied patients? I saw one on another site that had terrible scarring on the chest. Somehow this posting has disappeared. HMM....




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
04.04.2011, 05:56

@ diamond6

best doc out there...

Hi diamond6,
(diamond6 is located in [NA] and he is available to meet: NO)

Talk about a smear attempt with no concrete example!

I heard there once was a pig that was born with wings and could sing like Pavarotti. I read about it on the internet but it's no longer there. Hmmmm. Lol.

It seems your clinic of choice is Dr. Woods. That's cool.
No disrespect to Dr. Woods but would you care to post a link to a severe repair case from him that compares to these using BHT:

http://www.youtube.com/user/DrSUmar#p/u/14/eH0L0ygXgUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLK-oq2RfQ&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZXDiYHV5w&feature=channel_video_title

I'd truly like to see the most challenging repair case he's tackled.
We all know both docs can do wonders with virgin heads.

And I'll give Dr. Woods the advantage in the music video performance category but to be fair to Dr. Umar, I've never heard him sing.

Cheers.
:-D



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

diamond6

04.04.2011, 06:13

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

Would you care to show me any botch jobs by Dr. Woods? I think that a few results are just that. Those are the same old same old. I am not smearing anyone I saw a severely disfigured chest before I went to start my corrective surgeries and your Dr. said that he no longer uses that tool. Well tell that to the disfigured patient. Now I see 4 more coming out. No smearing just reporting on what I saw. BTW Does Dr. Umar require a legal disclaimer to protect him in legal matters? My Dr. is the only one I know who does not. Does Dr. Umar do all of the surgery from start to finish? I do not want techs doing a doctors job. This industry is full of opinions and I am happy you are happy with your Dr. I am also Very happy with mine. If you look at your videos it states "Results will vary" Quality of hair grafts etc, etc. I will take the inventor of the Fue over any copiers. They need to find their own inventions. Also did you know That Dr. Woods did corrective work on Dr. Umar? Not the other way around. So....




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
04.04.2011, 06:37

@ diamond6

best doc out there...

diamond,

I've seen no evidence of any "botch jobs" from Dr. Umar in the last six years and you've provided no proof. Only rumor, innuendo and hostility.

I've had grafts extracted mechanically and by hand by Dr. Umar with no signs of extraction whatsoever. Check my journals here for pictures.

"4 more coming out"?
More innuendo with not a shred of evidence?
I'm surprised this type of smear merchanting is allowed here.
Shameless.

All HT docs in America (that I know of) require the signing of release forms. This is standard practice here in the States and most everywhere else. It informs patients of the risks and protects the docs. That's how it is outside the Outback.

Regarding Dr. Umars techs, they did a stellar job for me with the doctor's supervision. Dr. Umar did all the extractions himself. The techs helped sort and place the grafts. This was also the case with my strip doc with good yield. Most all clinics do this. Again, standard practice.

The truth is results WILL vary from patient to patient. No honest doc would claim otherwise. Are you saying Dr. Woods will guarantee identical results for all patients? His own writings are clear about this. He wouldn't make that claim as it would just be plain silly.

And so far as wanting the "inventor" over "the innovator", I'll take the innovator. But I'm not knocking Dr. Woods. We both have our preference. And that's ok.

But so far as Dr. Woods "corrective work" on Dr. Umar... well... Dr. Umar shaves his head to a #1.
What does that say about the "corrective" work?
Got a video link to that stellar corrective work?

Just sayin.

Put another shrimp on the barbee and relax, Crocodile Dundee.

Now how about posting a "corrective" procedure from Dr. Woods that compares to the videos I just posted above? Just one.

Here's another more recent one added in March 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STSE9W3FzQ&feature=channel_video_title

Enjoy.



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---
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At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

silversurfer007

04.04.2011, 08:18

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

SFSG,

What happened to me is nothing to be laughing about. Some years ago after disaster struck I was still learning about the HT industry. In the midst of my despair I found some of the 'repair' cases Um,ar had done here and as a still naive person I went for him looking for his help. His actions differ from all you portray here. BEing that I was not able to pay one of his ridiculous 'repairs' with 20000 grafts he declined me. I then kept searching, went to talk to Bisanga, Wolf and Epstein as well. They were very kind and helped me but at the moment I was still not able to pay for the repair.They are all the best and showed me detailed cases of what could be done to help me. Then by the time I had saved enough I found Cole. When I saw his repairs I felt I had found what I was looking for. During all that time and after meeting dozens of patients and having watched thousands of pictures, I was able to differ good work from bad work. Cole did a great job on my repair and know you could barely see the mess there once was. Sometimes I wish for more hair but I now know the difference between my ideal and a cosmetically decent result wich is what I have. After all this time and experience I can now see Umar's work is messy and sloppy. I have acquired a good eye and now mediocre results from good results stand out easily. I can tell you the results I saw from Epstein, Bisanga, Wolf and Cole are by far better than the ones I have seen with Umar. It does not look natural. I agree that the patients are better off than how they were before, but it is a mediocre result. The first time I read your posts you came out as a cool confident guy, now I see you are a vain person who has been lucky and wants to push his view all over the place. DOn't come to me saying I don't know about HT's I have been with the best. Grow up kid. Count your blessings you had a good result with a second level doc and learn to accept the person that gave you a good result is not the best doctor out there, that he has many unhappy patients, that he has declined patients because he was not going to be able to squeeze them as he wanted, that he has scarred patients etc etc. After all, I am still happy for your result but you have to understand you were lucky and that he has many unhappy patients and that in no way he is in the same category as the doctors I have mentioned. What you see is called good marketing and PR, and you trying to push this view upon others is not right.




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HanginInThere

Manila(UwishUrHere),
04.04.2011, 10:06

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

» diamond,
»
» I've seen no evidence of any "botch jobs" from Dr. Umar in the last six
» years and you've provided no proof. Only rumor, innuendo and hostility.
»
» I've had grafts extracted mechanically and by hand by Dr. Umar with no
» signs of extraction whatsoever. Check my journals here for pictures.
»
» "4 more coming out"?
» More innuendo with not a shred of evidence?
» I'm surprised this type of smear merchanting is allowed here.
» Shameless.
»
» All HT docs in America (that I know of) require the signing of release
» forms. This is standard practice here in the States and most everywhere
» else. It informs patients of the risks and protects the docs. That's how
» it is outside the Outback.
»
» Regarding Dr. Umars techs, they did a stellar job for me with the doctor's
» supervision. Dr. Umar did all the extractions himself. The techs helped
» sort and place the grafts. This was also the case with my strip doc with
» good yield. Most all clinics do this. Again, standard practice.
»
» The truth is results WILL vary from patient to patient. No honest doc
» would claim otherwise. Are you saying Dr. Woods will guarantee identical
» results for all patients? His own writings are clear about this. He
» wouldn't make that claim as it would just be plain silly.
»
» And so far as wanting the "inventor" over "the innovator", I'll take the
» innovator. But I'm not knocking Dr. Woods. We both have our preference.
» And that's ok.
»
» But so far as Dr. Woods "corrective work" on Dr. Umar... well... Dr.
» Umar shaves his head to a #1.
» What does that say about the "corrective" work?
Got a video link to
» that stellar corrective work?
»
» Just sayin.
»
» Put another shrimp on the barbee and relax, Crocodile Dundee.
»
» Now how about posting a "corrective" procedure from Dr. Woods that compares
» to the videos I just posted above? Just one.
»
» Here's another more recent one added in March 2011:
» http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_STSE9W3FzQ&feature=channel_video_title
»
» Enjoy.

the way you froth at the mouth defending Umar
makes us suspect you are on the payroll

are you?
just curious




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Duck

04.04.2011, 11:18

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

"But so far as Dr. Woods "corrective work" on Dr. Umar... well... Dr. Umar shaves his head to a #1." Ahh this was sooo long ago and Dr. Woods did very little work on him. He was very bald. And just decided after the Dr. A work which he had many leg hair to just shave It all. The 3rd times a charm guy(that was Dr. Umars online name) had many praises about the work years ago.That is why he came up with that name after Woods repair work. If you dig around you will find them. This back and forth with some of you guys is getting ridiculous. SFSG is happy with his minor (1000 leg hair repair) so let it be already.




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diamond6

04.04.2011, 15:20

@ Duck

best doc out there...

» "But so far as Dr. Woods "corrective work" on Dr. Umar... well... Dr. Umar
» shaves his head to a #1." Ahh this was sooo long ago and Dr. Woods did very
» little work on him. He was very bald. And just decided after the Dr. A work
» which he had many leg hair to just shave It all. The 3rd times a charm
» guy(that was Dr. Umars online name) had many praises about the work years
» ago.That is why he came up with that name after Woods repair work. If you
» dig around you will find them. This back and forth with some of you guys is
» getting ridiculous. SFSG is happy with his minor (1000 leg hair repair) so
» let it be already.


Agreed! There is too much bickering on this site & too many paid shills from clinics. I am just thrilled that my hair is coming in so nicely that recently it is looking like a full head of hair!! For that I am grateful. As far as those who think this Dr is the best and that one is the best let me say this: The doctor who does not scar someone and gets hair to grow, look, style and comb naturally is the doctor you should have do your surgery. I think my Dr. Has done this for me. If you feel your doctor does this for you then all well and done. But watch out!! This is not any type of surgery to jump into if you are in the wrong hands. It will steal years of your life and cause stress, anxiety and you will constantly regret your decision.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
04.04.2011, 15:57

@ HanginInThere

best doc out there...

Hangin,

No, I'm not on the payroll. Lol.
I have no financial incentive to post on the forums.
But I am loyal to my 3rd and hopefully final HT doc who fixed my 1990s mini/micro hairline in a day using about 1000 leg hair grafts. And I will not stand by and watch him get smeared by fellow cheerleaders of competing clinics. And I've used great restraint to not use the type of tactic these "critics" use to smear other clinics. That's just not my nature.


Diamond,
I am very happy you are happy with your result.
As it should be.
Now let's see that hair and some extreme repair videos from Dr. Woods!


Duck,
If Dr. Woods did very little work on Dr. Umar and Dr. Umar practically shaves his head, then there was no reason for this to be used as an example of Dr. Wood's repair work. Go to D. Umar's website and check him out. He's sporting the Michael Jordan look very nicely. He's blessed in that he looks great with or without hair.

Happy growing to all.



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Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

marmaromenos

04.04.2011, 17:25

@ Sofarsogood

best doc out there...

Diamond you should post your photos.Dr Woods has very good results with 2000-3000 grafts.I think you are an extreme repair so give us a chance to see your progress.

Dr Umar i think is one of the best in repairs.The french guy has very good growth

Sofarsogood i didnt like the way you speak to topcat.if i were you i would ask for an apologise as soon as possible.i am sure you understood who is attacking Dr Umar and definetely isnt topcat

silversurfer007 i saw your posts and i am confused

I think it was bad mistake to erase posts because people thought that someone wanted to hide the fact.It is better now for all to know the risks that might have fue/bht.




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Sofarsogood

Los Angeles area,
04.04.2011, 18:19

@ marmaromenos

best doc out there...

Marmaromenos,

Cat (I will not be referring to him as "top" of anything) has been smearing Dr. Umar on multiple forums for many months. At this point in time I do not believe any apology is deserved. Hopefully, this will change as I am more than willing to apologize when appropriate.

However, I do want to point out to silversurfer that I was not poking fun at the state of his transplant. If he is in need of repair, he is correct in that there is no humor there. I was poking fun in the notion that he wanted to be a patient of Dr. Umar and after his case was declined, he came out lobbing bombs on the forums like like a woman scorned. So I do offer my apology to him for making him feel that I was making fun of his case, which I was not. Just his hypocrisy.

As for diamond, well, his attempting to smear Dr. Umar over the 4 French hair grifters is unseemly (at best). The cat is out of the bag on those characters. I think he knew that when he posted about them as "4 more", etc. This is intellectually dishonest. But perhaps he didn't see the blackmail video on the other thread. Anything's possible.

These forums are filled with cheerleaders, vultures and predators.
I'd rather be a cheerleader.
But that's just me.

Now I have to get back to work.
See y'all later.



Sofarsogood has 7 Personal Journal(s). Click here to view
Sofarsogood is located in LOS ANGELES AREA and he is available to meet: YES
email hairsite@aol.com to arrange a meeting.

---
BHT was used to "soften" my former HT hairline that was made up of larger grafts.
At the ISHRS 2007convention, 12 docs from 10 countries, many techs and one famous forum moderator
acknowledged the BHT growth. Click the link for more about my case.
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/27-sofarsogood
Video of my BHT result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEZb42ZrYs&feature=channel_page

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